SectionC3 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Politics are pure blood sport. Ok.. so we’ve gotten the intended election night results from the shutdown that we wanted. How about we open it back up and extend the ACA subsidies one year… ….to set to expire right before the midterms Diabolical work Meanwhile, Trump is fighting to not provide SNAP benefits. He had an easy out and could have just blamed the courts. Nobody's hands are clean here. But, objectively speaking, Schumer is cleaning Trump's clock from a political perspective this week.
SCBills Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Just now, SectionC3 said: Meanwhile, Trump is fighting to not provide SNAP benefits. He had an easy out and could have just blamed the courts. Nobody's hands are clean here. But, objectively speaking, Schumer is cleaning Trump's clock from a political perspective this week. Yes, Schumer is winning. Also, sign the clean CR. He won’t, because hes winning, but that doesn’t absolve the left of suffering. Both sides are perfectly fine with people struggling as they fight for power. If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re purely partisan and there’s nothing further to discuss.
SectionC3 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yes, Schumer is winning. Also, sign the clean CR. He won’t, because hes winning, but that doesn’t absolve the left of suffering. Both sides are perfectly fine with people struggling as they fight for power. If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re purely partisan and there’s nothing further to discuss. Why won’t Trump negotiate? The Dems named their price. He can end the thing now. (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch. And the “ask” for Dems is on health care. Totally reasonable, from my point of view. So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable. 1 1 1
Wolfgang Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 8 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Why won’t Trump negotiate? The Dems named their price. He can end the thing now. (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch. And the “ask” for Dems is on health care. Totally reasonable, from my point of view. So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable.
Coffeesforclosers Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, SCBills said: Politics are pure blood sport. Ok.. so we’ve gotten the intended election night results from the shutdown that we wanted. How about we open it back up and extend the ACA subsidies one year… ….to set to expire right before the midterms Diabolical work Huh. And here I thought Schumer was a senile old coot who thought The West Wing was a documentary.
JDHillFan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 12 hours ago, SectionC3 said: And the “ask” for Dems is on health care. Totally reasonable, from my point of view Does the dems “ask” still include COVID-era subsidies for families making up to 600k/yr? If so, the dems “ask” amounts to one of those handouts to the rich you normally whine about. Now, because of party politics only, that’s totally reasonable from your point of view. Nice work. V/R, AM Edited 9 hours ago by JDHillFan
All_Pro_Bills Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 12 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Why won’t Trump negotiate? The Dems named their price. He can end the thing now. (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch. And the “ask” for Dems is on health care. Totally reasonable, from my point of view. So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable. I think because the only reason the Dems suddenly became flexible is the election came and went so holding the line no longer provides any politiical value. Too far away from Nov 2026. Secondly, the majority has traditionally imposed the clean continuing resolution approach on the minority and there's nothing special about this budget impasse exercise that warrants any conditions. The idea being this is what you guys force us to accept and suddenly now that its your turn you want flexibility. Perspective can change a lot.
B-Man Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago On Friday, Schumer announced his proposal, in which he said that he and his Democrat colleagues would agree to reopen the government if, and only if, the Republicans extended COVID-19-era Obama-care subsidies for another year, and then they could sit down to negotiate with the GOP to deal with healthcare costs. Senator Kennedy responded. "God, please give me patience, because if you give me strength, I'm going to need bail money," Kennedy replied, and the host couldn't help but laugh. "What Senator Schumer is suggesting is that we do the dumbest thing possible that won't work. Stupid should hurt more." "[Schumer's proposal] means we would have to take $35B of taxpayer money and give it directly to health insurance companies without any commitment of lowering premiums." "How's that going to reduce healthcare costs?" he added. "How's that going to reduce premiums? The healthcare companies are going to take $35 billion from the taxpayers and put it into their pocket." "I don't know what Senator Schumer is thinking," Kennedy continued. "I mean, Earth to Chuck… Am I going to vote for this? The short answer is no. The long answer is hell no. I think we are just going to have to get used to the fact that we've been in a shutdown, we're going to be in a shutdown for a while." https://redstate.com/katie-jerkovich/2025/11/07/stupid-should-hurt-more-sen-kennedys-savage-response-to-schumer-over-latest-shutdown-proposal-n2195982
All_Pro_Bills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago What Schumer wants is a year extension of health insurance subsidies until the end of 2026 so: 1) They get what now 2) they create an issue they can campaign on with a mid-term election promise to make the subsidies permanent if the voters give them control of Congress. Keep the affordability issue alive. Smart tactic.
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