Jimmy Kimmel Canceled

[SCBills]

21 minutes ago, boyst said:

People are also being short-sighted to realize the political play of the democratic party is to label this as a political move to silence kimmel. That is the best and smartest play for them in the long run. This effectively moves the bar that the government acting to quell descent has already occurred with precedent 

 

The long term goal becomes that it will actually become a true open-faced political maneuver to silence descent for those in office. 

 

So for those not getting it, the Republicans used their power of the FCC to fire Kimmel in democratic optics. Even though Kimmel was a goner because of bad ratings in the ad revenue falling Disney is allowing the narrative to be a political goal, which also suits their individual interest as a political representative. 

 

So because the FCC use pressure to fire Kimmel, even though the left has used it before, and the right in the 60s and '70s....

Now it's back in the mainstream with social media, social media that was used by the left to crush dissent on the right behind the scenes and once called a conspiracy theory... I'll be open-faced and more aggressive when the 2028 democratic president takes office. Likely newsome, who has no problem being a king jackass. 

 

The Democrats are playing this perfectly and everyone is falling for it. 

This hits if you’re under the assumption the left wouldn’t do this if they win in ‘28

 

Given elected Dems have pressured Fox News, the Biden Admin used the DOJ to investigate conservative groups including Turning Point, used their influence over tech to censor during Covid and leftists have long since been using advertiser boycotts to attack speech they don’t like … I’d say they would use this tactic anyway. 
 

“How would you like it if the shoe were on the other foot” only works when the shoe has never been on the other foot. 
 

I understand many conservatives apprehension over the FCC chair inserting himself and Trump taking victory laps.  I do.  Optically, it seems like an unnecessary self own while the right is completely dominating the left on culture/***** opinion.   
 

But your argument doesn’t hold water for me.  Because it’s been done to varying degrees for the past decade while the right has just taken it. 
 

And you point out how the narrative will be spun, well yes… that’s because the left owns much of the influential establishment media… but the only people who pay attention to that are boomers who are already comically on the left or watching Fox News all day.  
 

The rest of us get our news from social media and podcasts.   Where again, we’re silo’ed. 
 

So it’s a battle for the normies.  And on this topic,  Charlie Kirk being assassinated with leftist celebration vs the right’s response to it. 

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

This hits if you’re under the assumption the left wouldn’t do this if they win in ‘28

 

Given elected Dems have pressured Fox News, the Biden Admin used the DOJ to investigate conservative groups including Turning Point, used their influence over tech to censor during Covid and leftists have long since been using advertiser boycotts to attack speech they don’t like … I’d say they would use this tactic anyway. 
 

“How would you like it if the shoe were on the other foot” only works when the shoe has never been on the other foot. 
 

I understand many conservatives apprehension over the FCC chair inserting himself and Trump taking victory laps.  I do.  Optically, it seems like an unnecessary self own while the right is completely dominating the left on culture/***** opinion.   
 

But your argument doesn’t hold water for me.  Because it’s been done to varying degrees for the past decade while the right has just taken it. 
 

And you point out how the narrative will be spun, well yes… that’s because the left owns much of the influential establishment media… but the only people who pay attention to that are boomers who are already comically on the left or watching Fox News all day.  
 

The rest of us get our news from social media and podcasts.   Where again, we’re silo’ed. 
 

So it’s a battle for the normies.  And on this topic,  Charlie Kirk being assassinated with leftist celebration vs the right’s response to it. 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

This hits if you’re under the assumption the left wouldn’t do this if they win in ‘28

 

Given elected Dems have pressured Fox News, the Biden Admin used the DOJ to investigate conservative groups including Turning Point, used their influence over tech to censor during Covid and leftists have long since been using advertiser boycotts to attack speech they don’t like … I’d say they would use this tactic anyway. 
 

“How would you like it if the shoe were on the other foot” only works when the shoe has never been on the other foot. 
 

I understand many conservatives apprehension over the FCC chair inserting himself and Trump taking victory laps.  I do.  Optically, it seems like an unnecessary self own while the right is completely dominating the left on culture/***** opinion.   
 

But your argument doesn’t hold water for me.  Because it’s been done to varying degrees for the past decade while the right has just taken it. 
 

And you point out how the narrative will be spun, well yes… that’s because the left owns much of the influential establishment media… but the only people who pay attention to that are boomers who are already comically on the left or watching Fox News all day.  
 

The rest of us get our news from social media and podcasts.   Where again, we’re silo’ed. 
 

So it’s a battle for the normies.  And on this topic,  Charlie Kirk being assassinated with leftist celebration vs the right’s response to it. 

 

Perfectly said.

[SCBills]

Every. Time. 
 

 

[Wacka]

45 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I wonder if there is such a thing as a Brian Stelter fan. Maybe some effeminate guys out there that enjoy what he does. who knows.

Wait until Gutfeld unloads on Stelter tonight. He has already been mocking him for years.

[SCBills]

Every. Time. 
 

 

[Cugalabanza]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

in your opinion.

 

there are countless others in hollywood who were given similar treatment. from james woods the OG of our time to Jenna Corino.

 

your second point: tucker carlson, and many others were canceled by the obama admin. further, and more devious is that the IRS was weaponized to attack conservative groups.

 

i do not remember if you had an opinion on this when it happened. would you like to comment on it now? whats your take on carlson being fired? or many journalists? especially those not left enough... i forget one of them but she was a highly popular journlist who was most surely democrat. there's also jk rowling...

 

please comment for these and support them just as you do Kimmel and then you will be respected for integrity and not just another political mouthpiece.

 

oh, and when we're done there we will revisit constituional law and how it does not at all apply to the public at large, hollywood, private groups, or anything other than the US Government since it only exists to put boundaries on the authority of the governemnt. not the people.

Ok, I’ll respond. This will be my last post in this topic.

 

On James Woods:  I don’t know what I’m supposed to say about this. I understand he feels like he can’t get work because of his politics. Maybe he’s just a jerk and nobody wants to work with him, I don’t know. Is there a conspiracy here? Some other big name Trump supporters continue to have successful careers:  Sly Stone, Dennis Quaid, David Mamet… In any case, nothing about James Woods has to do with an authoritarian influence from the government. I’ve enjoyed James Woods in some things in the past. If he gets a big role in a movie, good for him. I don’t make these decisions. And neither does the government.

 

I don’t know who Jenna Corino is.

 

Tucker Carlson. No, I didn’t cry fascism when Tucker was let go by Fox. You know who else didn’t? Everybody. That’s because it was understood that there was a lot going on with Tucker. He had burned a lot of bridges at work, saying nasty stuff about his peers at Fox. Part of it was that some of his private comments about Trump and others became public. Off air, he was laughing at Trump because he thought he was a joke. Then there was the Dominion voting machine conspiracy thing, which Tucker was promoting on his show and privately calling stupid.

 

JK Rowling. See James Woods above. Same deal. People are free to not like her if they want. There’s no big scheme here. My girlfriend reads and loves her private investigator books which she puts out under the name Robert Galbraith. I read the first couple and thought they were good. I personally think she’s kind of an obnoxious loudmouth from what I’ve read of her online comments. But it’s not a crime to be a jerk.

 

You mention “many others” and “many journalists.” I won’t address that because I don’t know what you’re talking about. Even you can’t remember any of the supposed names.

[SCBills]

Every. Time. 
 

 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

This hits if you’re under the assumption the left wouldn’t do this if they win in ‘28

 

Given elected Dems have pressured Fox News, the Biden Admin used the DOJ to investigate conservative groups including Turning Point, used their influence over tech to censor during Covid and leftists have long since been using advertiser boycotts to attack speech they don’t like … I’d say they would use this tactic anyway. 
 

“How would you like it if the shoe were on the other foot” only works when the shoe has never been on the other foot. 
 

I understand many conservatives apprehension over the FCC chair inserting himself and Trump taking victory laps.  I do.  Optically, it seems like an unnecessary self own while the right is completely dominating the left on culture/***** opinion.   
 

But your argument doesn’t hold water for me.  Because it’s been done to varying degrees for the past decade while the right has just taken it. 
 

And you point out how the narrative will be spun, well yes… that’s because the left owns much of the influential establishment media… but the only people who pay attention to that are boomers who are already comically on the left or watching Fox News all day.  
 

The rest of us get our news from social media and podcasts.   Where again, we’re silo’ed. 
 

So it’s a battle for the normies.  And on this topic,  Charlie Kirk being assassinated with leftist celebration vs the right’s response to it. 

the left did this behind the scenes for the most point and was labeled at hte time conpsiracy theory.

 

they won't be so shy and be evermore emboldened in 2028.

 

only twice has a VP won the P. van burren and bush1. i don't know that Vance will be able to.

 

the right also did this to opponents in the 60's and 70's - Nixon for example. and prior times. people forget history too easily.

[JFKjr]

We remember Kimmel pushing for Roseanne to be canceled.

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

It's not just fox, cnn had to shell out money as well.

Assuming the point about CNN is true, was it $787m worth?  Seems like a lot of lie there by Fox News.  Or at least a very, very, very expensive lie. 

1 hour ago, wnyguy said:

Permission to strike the witness, your honor.

Denied.  We don't strike witnesses.  Only in banana republics does that happen. 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

the left did this behind the scenes for the most point and was labeled at hte time conpsiracy theory.

 

they won't be so shy and be evermore emboldened in 2028.

 

only twice has a VP won the P. van burren and bush1. i don't know that Vance will be able to.

 

the right also did this to opponents in the 60's and 70's - Nixon for example. and prior times. people forget history too easily.

That the left will overtly do the same things they did behind the scenes and gaslit the public on isn’t enough to make me concerned here. 

[SectionC3]

47 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

On more than one occasion I've had leftists here say that their free speech rights are being infringed upon because I have them on ignore.

 

😂

 

 

 

 

The obvious difference is that the government didn't lean on twitter to get that result.  

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

Assuming the point about CNN is true, was it $787m worth?  Seems like a lot of lie there by Fox News.  Or at least a very, very, very expensive lie. 

Denied.  We don't strike witnesses.  Only in banana republics does that happen. 

So dollar value is the barometer here?

 

It is true, cnn had to pay nick sandman an undisclosed amount.

 

Cnn defaming a high school kid to push racial tensions.

 

But but fox news.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This is simply a learning opportunity for liberal cancel culture enthusiasts to experience the meaning of the old saying, "Live by the sword, die by the sword". 

Yes, because Biden went around crying about things he did not like on TV and used his power to punish those people. Not 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, Cugalabanza said:

Ok, I’ll respond. This will be my last post in this topic.

 

On James Woods:  I don’t know what I’m supposed to say about this. I understand he feels like he can’t get work because of his politics. Maybe he’s just a jerk and nobody wants to work with him, I don’t know. Is there a conspiracy here? Some other big name Trump supporters continue to have successful careers:  Sly Stone, Dennis Quaid, David Mamet… In any case, nothing about James Woods has to do with an authoritarian influence from the government. I’ve enjoyed James Woods in some things in the past. If he gets a big role in a movie, good for him. I don’t make these decisions. And neither does the government.

 

I don’t know who Jenna Corino is.

 

Tucker Carlson. No, I didn’t cry fascism when Tucker was let go by Fox. You know who else didn’t? Everybody. That’s because it was understood that there was a lot going on with Tucker. He had burned a lot of bridges at work, saying nasty stuff about his peers at Fox. Part of it was that some of his private comments about Trump and others became public. Off air, he was laughing at Trump because he thought he was a joke. Then there was the Dominion voting machine conspiracy thing, which Tucker was promoting on his show and privately calling stupid.

 

JK Rowling. See James Woods above. Same deal. People are free to not like her if they want. There’s no big scheme here. My girlfriend reads and loves her private investigator books which she puts out under the name Robert Galbraith. I read the first couple and thought they were good. I personally think she’s kind of an obnoxious loudmouth from what I’ve read of her online comments. But it’s not a crime to be a jerk.

 

You mention “many others” and “many journalists.” I won’t address that because I don’t know what you’re talking about. Even you can’t remember any of the supposed names.

corino was fired by diseny for expressing conservative views.

 

dennis quaid hardly has a successful career, i don't know who mamet is... and stalone is obviously a beast. regardless, you can name conservatives on maybe two hands vs. the hundreds on the left.

 

tucker didn't have it coming. that's an opinion. i used to be a big fan of his about 15-20 years ago when he was a nobody but didn't follow his career. any personal accounts of him always seem genuine and fine.

 

the NY post being shut down for hunter biden stuff. and it is drving bonkers i can't remember the womans name who was fired for the nyt. but there have been many who have faced political retribution.

 

either way, i am glad it sounds like you are supporting Kimmel's firing because like you project about Woods and speculating is that maybe he is an obnoxious jerk. or like Carlson, he burned a lot of bridges. or like JK Rowling, he was a loudmouth on tv and a jerk.

 

glad we agree on Kimmel. i am sure that was cathartic for oyu

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

The obvious difference is that the government didn't lean on twitter to get that result.  

Now do covid, where the Biden Admin had back channels to Twitter on who/what to silence and suppress. 
 

 

Edited September 18 by SCBills

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

In a prior post you stated it was “probably profitable”. Any basis for that other than your hopes?

 

Lead in for a morning show, huh? 🤦🏻

As to #2, yup.  You're out of your depth if you think otherwise.  As to #1, the show stayed on the air through summer and until the FCC checked in.  If this was strictly a monetary issue, it would have been dumped awhile ago if the staff could have been let go.  If the staff can't be let go without payment, then it makes little sense to dump it now, unless the issue, again, is the FCC.  

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Now do covid, where the Biden Admin had back channels to Twitter on who/what to silence and suppress. 
 

 

Got a finger on those back channels?  Or is this just another right wing conspiracy?

[JFKjr]

54 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Can’t wait to hear why we can’t have midterms or why we can’t trust any place a Dem wins.  Bye bye America.  

 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

As to #2, yup.  You're out of your depth if you think otherwise.  As to #1, the show stayed on the air through summer and until the FCC checked in.  If this was strictly a monetary issue, it would have been dumped awhile ago if the staff could have been let go.  If the staff can't be let go without payment, then it makes little sense to dump it now, unless the issue, again, is the FCC.  

Got a finger on those back channels?  Or is this just another right wing conspiracy?

Its literally in the Twitter Files, that I’m sure you’ve memory holed. 
 

How about this?