BillsFanNC Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Because admitting it was a liberal shooter means that they have to admit that they are part of the problem. And that's never going to happen. Sure you'll never can expect the bomb throwers like Roundy, Home loser and Tibstain to ever admit it. But someone tell me because I can't know for certain with these people on ignore.... But has the 'fiercely independent' Finding Qanon (Frankish) or the 'former republican' The King (chigoose) admitted that the shooter just might be associated with the left?
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: This just goes to show that the Left has hijacked a legitimate mental illness for their own militant causes. Most people, today, who identify as trans do NOT have gender dysphoria. It is simply their way of rebelling against “the system”, and in many ways, nature itself. They use the cover of how no one wants to offend minority groups, to exact violence on the greater society, as a result of their own self loathing and bitter resentment. The modern LGBT movement, and the Left wing activists who run it, have morphed from a peaceful movement into domestic terrorists-as a majority of the latest mass shootings have come from a group that’s supposed to represent less than one percent of the population. I conclude we have a serious problem in our society. Liberals have taken what is in reality a serious behavior health issue and transformed it into another one of their oppressed classes or groups. Seeking to redefine mental illness as some "diverse" behavior or acceptable multicultural social norm. And now we've got a lot of mentally ill people running loose pretending that a man can be a woman or a woman can be a man simply by believing it and taking some hormone treatments or undergoing cosmetic gender altering surgeries. Many undergoing the transition regret the decision. Many are coerced and encouraged. Many are angry. Still none of this is an excuse for murder. The root of the problem is the various interests pushing these kids to undergo these transitions. They're giving poor advice and with all medical procedures not providing all the information in order to meet the threshold of informed patient consent. A clue to this is the efforts to exclude parents from the decision and hide treatments. The goal being to eliminate any rational and fully developed adult mind from the conversation and decisions process. This borders on criminal conduct. Revoking medical and professional license and jail time is due. I detect a lot of malice and self-interest is at play. These people include doctors and their therapist partners, teachers, professors, and school administrators that actively recruit these kids for gender “treatment” (these might actually be the people they should target for murder). And then there's the cheerleaders on the political left that have encouraged this to create another oppressed group they can use to pursue political ambitions. They all need to be dealt with harshly. Doing so will stop the assembly line production line like creation of these potential maniacs. Then maybe get these people some real help. Edited September 15 by All_Pro_Bills 1
T master Posted September 15 Posted September 15 23 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said: 200 yards is NOT a difficult shot. It's actually extremely easy, especially with a 30-06 round. This kid, like so many of us, grew up around firearms. My kids were and are raised around firearms. My wife, who only knows how to shoot her Ruger LC9... I could teach her to hit a target out to 500 yards in about an hour. One of the more annoying things after all this are the internet morons who sit there and claim things like "Must have been an expert sniper", "Foreign government." or "That is a near impossible shot". GTFO to all of you. When I was 11 (until I was about 14) traveled to complete in the Jr. NRA and Civilian Marksman Program. I'd compete on military ranges (like Camp Perry, Ohio). Reaching out to 500 yards with open sights was something we did regularly. That's with a 5.56 round with a semi-auto platform. Now, put an optic on a BOLT action with a 30-06 caliber... you can hit 1000 yards with just a little practice. This 22-year old would need very little training and time to hit a human size target with a Mauser 98 that has even a so-so optic. The kid actually didn't account for the slight drop (at that range, a 30-06 has very little drop) and missed his head. Non-gun people have zero clue about firearms and what their capabilities are and aren't. It's so damn annoying to listen to people make moronic assumptions. 200 yards is your typical hunting range (deer). Many hunters zero their rifle at 200 yards. I could OPEN sight a human target at 300 yards with zero issues. Forget needing glass to hit it. I can tell by reading your reply that your more into guns than most and make it sound like a piece of cake, I grew up hunting out in the woods as a teen and did some bird hunting then and now am into archery but although I have a idea about how scopes and such work I've never messed with it so I don;t know nearly what you do . But to hit a spot that is 2" at 200 yds is not something that is done by someone that isn't some what proficient with fire arms, anytime I have been with anyone sighting in a long gun they have a rest of some kind and there is breathing involved and if you want to get real picky your heart beat even has a determination in really long shots . It sounds like you are much more proficient or a bit more redneck than you realize when it comes to guns than most . But alls I was saying is this guy didn't just run out grab a gun and decide to make a 1 time 200 yd shot and hit with that 1 shot on a whim .
BillsFanNC Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 Let us tell you what the family saying that the assassin subscribed to left wing ideology really means.... A bunch of word salad filled with obscure terms nobody has heard of until the past week that ends with: It means he's MAGA. - Those who live 24/7 under a green sky. 1
paulmm3 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) Now that we know Tyler Robinson is about as far left as far left gets the scale of the misinformation campaign run on Democrats to make them think this guy was a Republican is still shocking. Edited September 15 by paulmm3
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 @Logic can you admit you were wrong? I apologized for being wrong when in fact I wasn't.
BillsFanNC Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, paulmm3 said: Now that we know Tyler Robinson is about as far left as far left gets the scale of the misin campaign run on Democrats to make them think this guy was a Republican is still shocking. It shouldn't be shocking anymore.
boyst Posted September 15 Posted September 15 13 minutes ago, paulmm3 said: Now that we know Tyler Robinson is about as far left as far left gets the scale of the misin campaign run on Democrats to make them think this guy was a Republican is still shocking. Republicans are pouncing on this... I'm 5....4....3...2....1....
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, T master said: I can tell by reading your reply that your more into guns than most and make it sound like a piece of cake, I grew up hunting out in the woods as a teen and did some bird hunting then and now am into archery but although I have a idea about how scopes and such work I've never messed with it so I don;t know nearly what you do . But to hit a spot that is 2" at 200 yds is not something that is done by someone that isn't some what proficient with fire arms, anytime I have been with anyone sighting in a long gun they have a rest of some kind and there is breathing involved and if you want to get real picky your heart beat even has a determination in really long shots . It sounds like you are much more proficient or a bit more redneck than you realize when it comes to guns than most . But alls I was saying is this guy didn't just run out grab a gun and decide to make a 1 time 200 yd shot and hit with that 1 shot on a whim . A few things... I am into guns. I'm an Okie, it's a huge part of Southern Oklahoma culture. We hunt, we fish, etc. We are raised around guns and are taught at an early age how to be safe around them. Sure, it takes some practice... but I can take anyone on this page and teach them to make that shot in a very short period of time. It's not hard. Your heartrate and breathing are massive when it comes to long range shots. But the thing is... this isn't long range. It's sub-200 yards. That's an EASY shot. The 30-06 round itself is extremely fast and extremely accurate. If you have your weapon zeroed at 100 yards (some hunters do it at 200), this round has a drop of about 3". Meaning, you aim at someone's head... you'll likely hit him in the jaw/neck. This killer likely missed his aim-point. And yes, it's CLEAR this kid was raised around firearms. It's Utah... much like Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, etc. people are raised around them. There are photos of he and his brothers with firearms. Recently, his mother posted a photo of her other son (Austin) with a 'tricked out' Ruger 10-22 at a range. The weapon you really start shooting as a kid. No one ever said he put a rifle together real quick and decided to take this shot. He clearly had some practice/understanding. But what I'm saying, I can take YOU or anyone here and teach you to reach out to a human size target at 500 yards in about an hour with a decent set-up. PS: Not a 'redneck'. I have a masters degree and work as a mental health professional. I'm far from "unsophisticated", which is a key trait to the term 'redneck'. My father is a doctor, mother is a BS RN. My grandfather was a chemical engineer for Phillips 66 and holds 27 patients. My uncle was a literal 'rocket scientist' for NASA. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, boyst said: Republicans are pouncing on this... I'm 5....4....3...2....1.... How much of the country would be on fire if this situation was reversed? 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: How much of the country would be on fire if this situation was reversed? I did the math... exactly 58.43% The other 41.67% are in southern states. 2
boyst Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: How much of the country would be on fire if this situation was reversed? What amazed me is the momentum of riots and unrest by the left. It didn't ebb and flow. It was constant. Once the tinderbox was lit it blew up and kept getting stoked by the simplest breeze. I hope that the country can remain peaceful and peacefully protest the unrest that is always there. We shall see. But directly answering your question - situation reversed it'd be a mess but I don't know who on the left is in a Charlie Kirk position. The left doesn't have major media figures at this point. Their politicians are the primary spokesman. So who would it be? Rachel maddow? Andrew Cuomo? Who's on the left? 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, boyst said: What amazed me is the momentum of riots and unrest by the left. It didn't ebb and flow. It was constant. Once the tinderbox was lit it blew up and kept getting stoked by the simplest breeze. I hope that the country can remain peaceful and peacefully protest the unrest that is always there. We shall see. But directly answering your question - situation reversed it'd be a mess but I don't know who on the left is in a Charlie Kirk position. The left doesn't have major media figures at this point. Their politicians are the primary spokesman. So who would it be? Rachel maddow? Andrew Cuomo? Who's on the left? Nobody, that's part of the problem. They don't want dialogue, they want you to fall in line. 1
boyst Posted September 15 Posted September 15 17 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Nobody, that's part of the problem. They don't want dialogue, they want you to fall in line. Cmon. Seriously. I've been trying to think about it .is there anyone? It used to be maddow and that one guy on msnbc late evening with the woman. Olberman? Was that him?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, boyst said: Cmon. Seriously. I've been trying to think about it .is there anyone? It used to be maddow and that one guy on msnbc late evening with the woman. Olberman? Was that him? They are both too far gone with tds now.
boyst Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: They are both too far gone with tds now. @Joe Ferguson forever who's the lefts current closest to Charlie Kirk right now?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, boyst said: @Joe Ferguson forever who's the lefts current closest to Charlie Kirk right now? They don't have an equivalent. If they did, maybe Charlie would still be alive. 1
Lost Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, boyst said: @Joe Ferguson forever who's the lefts current closest to Charlie Kirk right now? It might be Stephen A. Smith edit: Actually it's probably Bill Mahar Edited September 15 by Lost
BillsFanNC Posted September 15 Author Posted September 15 Is there anyone on the left with a large platform who purposely goes into institutions almost exclusively belonging to the right (as if those actually exist) and respectfully and openly debates them? To even ask the question is ludicrous. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 15 Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, Lost said: It might be Stephen A. Smith edit: Actually it's probably Bill Mahar This might be true, but he's been calling out dems for a while now.
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