boyst Posted September 12 Posted September 12 10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I can post however I want. Again, you're sounding like Billstime/Roundy, who I'd bet have actually tried to report me for ignoring them. 😂 And I likely would chill and have a beer with both of you, or maybe I'd find you both to be actual morons. But we'll never know. Triggered! 😂 Jauronimo shows up down here once in a blue moon. Sometimes I remind him of his moronic posts, and it wasn't just the trans stuff, sometimes I don't. Sounds like you're a bit triggered because I called out your buddy. Don't worry I'm sure that Jauronimo, despite being a moron, will be just fine. I'm not triggered. I'm a moron who posts at work when bored, driving the tractor when bored and going slow, or taking dump. Some of those happen simultaneously. I'm hardly serious enough to be taken seriously. I know you're new here. You'll catch on.
ChiGoose Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, boyst said: I'm not triggered. I'm a moron who posts at work when bored, driving the tractor when bored and going slow, or taking dump. Some of those happen simultaneously. I'm hardly serious enough to be taken seriously. I know you're new here. You'll catch on. Hopefully the tractor and dump things don’t happen simultaneously 1
JaCrispy Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Regardless of all the bickering about what side of the political aisle the guy was on, one thing is certain, he was not on Charlie Kirk’s side…And Kirk was a leader in the conservative movement. So make of that what you will… Conservatives may disagree on a few things, but their core values are the same- and it does not include silencing free speech, which is the bedrock of our democracy… So, if you are against that, you are anti conservative/foundational values.
boyst Posted September 12 Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Cugalabanza said: Hey Boyst! Yeah, I get the spectrum. But being anti-fascist is not unique to the radical left. I think it's understood (at least it used to be) that pretty much everyone is anti-fascist, except the fascists. I'm anti-communism, but that doesn't put me in the dark red. I think this left/right line represents a lot of the misunderstanding that plagues us. It is, by definition, one dimensional. There are other dimensions that would represent other values, ones that more of us likely share. The ones having to do with the way we live in our families, at work and in the world. Yeah, as I said to logic I think it was just a minute ago. It's a circle. I don't see much difference between fascism and socialism. This guy was messed up. The political affiliation is hard to figure out. My FIL is a Democrat but all his beliefs are Republican values. My grandpa was, too. My MIL is a registered Republican but all her values are classic liberal Democrat. Couldnt/can't tell either of them this. This guy may think he was a Republican or a furry. But he did something that is not democratic to our country. The lower case democratic not Democratic.
Logic Posted September 12 Posted September 12 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: No, it's anything but that. Video games, 4chan, groyper, Halloween costumes..... Anything but the exact language used for the past decade on repeat from the media and dem leaders to describe Trump, Kirk etc. It can't be that. It must not be that. The fact that the shooter apparently considered himself a member of a far right extremist group who openly expressed their disdain for Charlie Kirk and encouraged their followers to go to his events to confront and discredit him for not being nationalist and conservative enough, to the extent that this campaign become known as "The Groyper Wars" seems.....relevant, no? But ya know...any chance to blame the democrats I guess. 1
Big Blitz Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Logic said: The fact that the shooter apparently considered himself a member of a far right extremist group who openly expressed their disdain for Charlie Kirk and encouraged their followers to go to his events to confront and discredit him for not being nationalist and conservative enough, to the extent that this campaign become known as "The Groyper Wars" seems.....relevant, no? But ya know...any chance to blame the democrats I guess. Where did you get that? The bullet casings?
boyst Posted September 12 Posted September 12 12 minutes ago, Logic said: I don't disagree with most of what you're saying. The problem is that the toothpaste is already out of the tube. They already jumped as fast as they could to label Robinson a member of the "radical left", and now Fox News and Newsmax are gonna run with that narrative for days on end, and millions of Americans are going to (or already do) believe it. I don't blame law enforcement agencies OR the media (for the most part) for being ill-equipped to understand or contextualize this stuff. I DO blame politicians who jumped at the chance to use this as an opportunity to vilify the left. Jumping at the first chance to tell the whole country that the left is to blame BEFORE ANYONE WAS EVEN APPREHENDED appears to have been, ya know....not great! Oh and...Of all things, that plane that disappeared for 30 minutes that was owned by the jooooos. That was the best. How can we blame Israel and get everyone mad? Jfc lol
BillsFanNC Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Logic said: The fact that the shooter apparently considered himself a member of a far right extremist group who openly expressed their disdain for Charlie Kirk and encouraged their followers to go to his events to confront and discredit him for not being nationalist and conservative enough, to the extent that this campaign become known as "The Groyper Wars" seems.....relevant, no? But ya know...any chance to blame the democrats I guess. Anything you must do to ignore the language spoken on repeat for a decade exclusively by Democrats.
Cugalabanza Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Who on the right screams Donald Trump is a fascist? Seems like it's the left that adopted this overwhelming popular statement. Some of them used to, but not anymore since they got good jobs in the admin. My point in this thread is that it doesn't matter who this jaggoff shooter is. The Right and Left are both eager to assign the guy to the other team so they can get the win. But at best, it's not relevant because it's a pathetically small sample size: one unstable #######. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't prove anything, other than that there are unstable people in the world who let radical ideas make then do crazy ****. Edited September 12 by Cugalabanza
muppy Posted September 12 Posted September 12 21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Crazy is as crazy do. It’s virtually always this way. Right wing…left wing…irrelevant to me in the grand scheme of things. Most non-crazy people don’t shoot other human beings in the neck from a secreted location, or shoot people out shopping at a TOPS, or climb on a roof and take a pot shot at a guy running for President. Mental illness is the fashionable term, &$&@ing lunatics is appropriate. The rhetoric from leaders is certainly problematic at times, and to be clear, I’m talking about most leaders of the modern era, but somehow, someway an estimated 258,460,000+\- adults managed not to climb a building and take a shot at a guy talking to a group of kids on a college campus and 1 found a way to reveal his madness in a massive way. When I was a kid, I was climbing over some snow banks and made it to the snow fence separating the public from the general public. I stepped on the fence, the wood slats broke under my 75ish pound frame, and I dropped almost straight down onto the gigantic splinters that were left. The snow gear helped, but fortunately the spikes did not break the skin on my leg, nor anywhere else in the very important area immediate area south of the belly button or north of the mid thigh. There are other stories like that, near misses, decisions to avoid a place and time, and we all have them. Sometimes you have to get lucky in life (Trump moving at the last second before being struck), and poor Charlie Kirk was not so fortunate. double posted Leo. Points well taken.
BillsFanNC Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, boyst said: I'm not triggered. I'm a moron who posts at work when bored, driving the tractor when bored and going slow, or taking dump. Some of those happen simultaneously. I'm hardly serious enough to be taken seriously. I know you're new here. You'll catch on. Been here since 2002. Got a year on ya.
SCBills Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) The cope on the left is insane. Honestly headache inducing reading these posts. The simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. He was a radicalized, weirdo gamer who clearly had turned towards some leftist viewpoints as evidenced by gamer/furry writings, alongside regurgitating antifascist commentary and his family stating he had recently said that Charlie Kirk is full of hate. Even Hasan Piker of all people posted that this looks to be of a confused/leftist shooter, not fitting far right shooter archetypes. Yet the large leftist propaganda accounts are straight up lying about him being a registered Republican (yes, that’s a provable lie) and going Blue Anon to “well ackshually” his gamer infatuation = Nick Fuentes and a-ha! Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk didn’t like each other so he was obviously too far right and didn’t think Kirk was far right enough? Ok…. Got it. Edited September 12 by SCBills 2
Big Blitz Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Logic said: What is that? AI? Are you serious?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Cugalabanza said: Some of them used to, but not anymore since they got good jobs in the admin. My point in this thread is that it doesn't matter who this jaggoff shooter is. The Right and Left are both eager to assign the guy to the other team so they can get the win. But at best, it's not relevant because it's a pathetically small sample size: one unstable #######. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't prove anything, other than that there are unstable people in the who let radical ideas make then to crazy ****. I agree. There is no winning in this scenario, unfortunately.
SCBills Posted September 12 Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Logic said: The fact that the shooter apparently considered himself a member of a far right extremist group who openly expressed their disdain for Charlie Kirk and encouraged their followers to go to his events to confront and discredit him for not being nationalist and conservative enough, to the extent that this campaign become known as "The Groyper Wars" seems.....relevant, no? But ya know...any chance to blame the democrats I guess. You can’t really start a post with “the fact that…” and then state “apparently”, followed by a bunch of assumptions. 1
Logic Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Anything you must do to ignore the language spoken on repeat for a decade exclusively by Democrats. Anything you must do to ignore the reality that this language is also spoken by far right extremists, who are also dangerous and capable of violence. 1 1
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