AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Why would you deny the most plausible and obvious conclusion? Occam's razor, my man. Explain how an inside job would be the most obvious conclusion. Kirk was a giant reason Trump made huge gains with young men.
B-Man Posted September 11 Posted September 11 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Why would you deny the most plausible and obvious conclusion? Because it is neither. . 2
nedboy7 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 18 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Damn, look at you sinking even further. On brand. Who knows who it was. But do you really think some far left idiot can pull this off. Did you not see the footage of the two men onstage giving the signal to shoot? 7 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Explain how an inside job would be the most obvious conclusion. Kirk was a giant reason Trump made huge gains with young men. He wanted the Epstein files to be released which is a huge issue fro Trump. He was critical of Israel. He said that Netanyahu let Hamas slaughter jews to consolidate power and he also said that he thinks he would be killed by Israel if he turns against them. Netanyahu personally requested Kirk to visit him two weeks ago and Kirk denied. The fake shooter now released was saying some weird ***** too. You can find all this.
JFKjr Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Well if people had been following the trajectory of what Charlie Kirk has been saying of late, and who might be disturbed by that, then you'd have a better idea of motive. I don't expect anyone to get that deep into it, but there's no way the shooter was one of your Garden Variety Trans Crazies. So if they come up with evidence of THAT, it is misdirection.
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: You are brain poisoned. “positive impact” lol Which of his statements do you most disagree with, is it his belief that life is sacred, or that guns rights are important, or that trans people are mentally ill?
BullBuchanan Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) 25 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Explain how an inside job would be the most obvious conclusion. Kirk was a giant reason Trump made huge gains with young men. It's obvious because it provides MASSIVE political benefit. Think about it. Trump's approval ratings are in the gutter right now. The economy is toast, he's getting major pressure about Epstein, the immigration raids are starting to blow up in his face - what better way out of it than a major distraction that also galvanizes his base. GWB lied about Iraq having WMDs and started a war that killed 500K civilians just to get out from his scandals, what's one Charlie Kirk? Most people left of republicans don't even know who he is. If you were someone that wanted him dead because you disagreed with him, there are hundreds of more more prominent and damaging people out there. Why would someone be willing to potentially sacrifice themselves over a guy like that? He's a minor league player, but his death would be a rallying cry for all the podcasters and disaffected white boys. It will give Trump all the credibility he needs to do some really heinous ***** if he wants to, and no one from his party will dare try to stop him. Politically, it's a very fortunate event, I would say too fortunate. Edited September 11 by BullBuchanan
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, BullBuchanan said: It's obvious because it provides MASSIVE political benefit. Think about it. Trump's approval ratings are int he gutter right now. The economy is toast, he's getting major pressure about Epstein, what better way out of it than a major distraction that also galvanizes his base. GWB lied about Iraq having WMDs and started a war that killed 500K civilians just to get out from his scandals, what's one Charlie Kirk? Most people left of republicans don't even know who he is. If you were someone that wanted him dead because you disagreed with him, there are hundreds of more more prominent and damaging people out there. Why would someone be willing to potentially sacrifice themselves over a guy like that? He's a minor league player, but his death would be a rallying cry for all the podcasters and disaffected white boys. It will give Trump all the credibility he needs to do some really heinous ***** if he wants to, and no one from his party will dare try to stop him. Politically, it's a very fortunate event, I would say too fortunate. It's not even remotely close to be hitting this panic button scenario you cooked up.
Roundybout Posted September 11 Posted September 11 7 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Which of his statements do you most disagree with, is it his belief that life is sacred, or that guns rights are important, or that trans people are mentally ill? Lets start with his affection for known white supremacist Steve Sailer.
BullBuchanan Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: It's not even remotely close to be hitting this panic button scenario you cooked up. It doesn't have to be the end of days for trump and his staff to do reckless things. They've shown in the past that they'll waste no opportunity create spectacles for their gain. What if he really is implicated directly in the Epstein Files? What if there's direct concrete evidence that he was/is involved in sex trafficking and that's why they haven't been released?
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, BullBuchanan said: It doesn't have to be the end of days for trump and his staff to do reckless things. They've shown in the past that they'll waste no opportunity create spectacles for their gain. What if he really is implicated directly in the Epstein Files? What if there's direct concrete evidence that he was/is involved in sex trafficking and that's why they haven't been released? Unless Charlie Kirk had the actual epstein files and was going public with them this is totally absurd. This news although tragic, will fade as the cycle progresses and the Epstein topic will still exist. Sooo I think you should maybe take a breath and let's see how it plays out. I will do the same. 1
boyst Posted September 11 Posted September 11 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOePX_HjyKU/?igsh=MXhmYW82d3R6Y2diNQ== 1
BullBuchanan Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Unless Charlie Kirk had the actual epstein files and was going public with them this is totally absurd. This news although tragic, will fade as the cycle progresses and the Epstein topic will still exist. Sooo I think you should maybe take a breath and let's see how it plays out. I will do the same. I dunno man, we know with certainty that Trump has already had foreign adversaries assassinated in public with civilian collateral damage(Iranian General Qasem Soleimani). Once you pop your cherry, I'm sure it gets a lot easier to keep doing it. When there's personal benefit to be had? Well, then it's a no-brainer. The Epstein scandal may indeed stick around, but it depends how trump plays it. If they get some patsy to go along, or even bettr - they just off somebody, like they did with the Ear Job - then the whole matter just goes away. There doesn't even need to be a real person behind it. You just configure a fake FB/Twitter profile and Chat GPT some fake personal photos and you're done. I've already been seeing AI generated photos of "a person of interest" going around conservative social media today. It would be VERY easy to do, and in the meantime he could do things like declare martial law, or just move the national guard/military into american cities of rivals, like Chicago. Edited September 11 by BullBuchanan
thenorthremembers Posted September 11 Posted September 11 51 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Why would you deny the most plausible and obvious conclusion? Occam's razor, my man. Occams razor is never on the side of conspiracy theories. They make too many assumptions and arent directly logical. It doesnt mean they arent sometimes true just not in line with the thing youre quoting. 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: I dunno man, we know for certainty that Trump has already had foreign adversaries assassinated in public with civilian collateral damage(Iranian General Qasem Soleimani). Once you pop your cherry, I'm sure it gets a lot easier to keep doing it. When there's personal benefit to be had? Well, then it's a no-brainer. The Epstein scandal may indeed stick around, but it depends how trump plays it. If they get some patsy to go along, or even bettr - they just off somebody, like they did with the Ear Job - then the whole matter just goes away. There doesn't even need to be a real person behind it. You just configure a fake FB/Twitter profile and Chat GPT some fake personal photos and you're done. I've already been seeing AI generated photos of "a person of interest" going around conservative social media today. It would be VERY easy to do, and in the meantime he could do things like declare martial law, or just move the national guard/military into american cities of rivals, like Chicago. Seems like you have an axe to grind with Trump and nothing but hypotheticals. Chicago's a shithole with an obvious crime problem, not a rival. You seem to be towing the divide. 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: Occams razor is never on the side of conspiracy theories. They make too many assumptions and arent directly logical. It doesnt mean they arent sometimes true just not in line with the thing youre quoting. His usage would be correct with facts or evidence. He's hitting us with straight feelings. 1
thenorthremembers Posted September 11 Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Seems like you have an axe to grind with Trump and nothing but hypotheticals. Chicago's a shithole with an obvious crime problem, not a rival. You seem to be towing the divide. His usage would be correct with facts or evidence. He's hitting us with straight feelings. Sadly the longer the killer is at large I have the same feelings. Just want the guy caught
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 11 Posted September 11 21 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Lets start with his affection for known white supremacist Steve Sailer. So nothing about him, got it. But I am brain washed. Seriously I asked for one thing and you got this direction. Why didn't you use this level of thinking on Obama and The Weather Underground? 1
nedboy7 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 18 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Unless Charlie Kirk had the actual epstein files and was going public with them this is totally absurd. This news although tragic, will fade as the cycle progresses and the Epstein topic will still exist. Sooo I think you should maybe take a breath and let's see how it plays out. I will do the same. Not everything has to make sense to you. It's not how the world works.
B-Man Posted September 11 Posted September 11 34 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It's obvious because it provides MASSIVE political benefit. Think about it. Trump's approval ratings are in the gutter right now. FALSE The economy is toast, FALSE he's getting major pressure about Epstein, From the media ? Yeah I'm sure that's bothering him the immigration raids are starting to blow up in his face - That's false what better way out of it than a major distraction that also galvanizes his base. Other than that, what an illustrative post. 1 2
JFKjr Posted September 11 Posted September 11 56 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It's obvious because it provides MASSIVE political benefit. Think about it. Trump's approval ratings are in the gutter right now. The economy is toast, he's getting major pressure about Epstein, the immigration raids are starting to blow up in his face - what better way out of it than a major distraction that also galvanizes his base. GWB lied about Iraq having WMDs and started a war that killed 500K civilians just to get out from his scandals, what's one Charlie Kirk? Most people left of republicans don't even know who he is. If you were someone that wanted him dead because you disagreed with him, there are hundreds of more more prominent and damaging people out there. Why would someone be willing to potentially sacrifice themselves over a guy like that? He's a minor league player, but his death would be a rallying cry for all the podcasters and disaffected white boys. It will give Trump all the credibility he needs to do some really heinous ***** if he wants to, and no one from his party will dare try to stop him. Politically, it's a very fortunate event, I would say too fortunate. So you're thinking "the right" took him out? Or Trump's people? That is an interesting theory.
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