AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Roundybout said: Yeah, but why should it be hard? Just because one kid made it out of the hood doesn’t mean we shouldn’t continue to work to remove these barriers. Your story about the school was very good. I suspect, though, that the kids weren’t taking your lunch because they hated you, but because they were starving. The barriers you speak of is their culture. Drug dealers glorified, intelligence is looked down upon. Blame everyone. No accountability. Rinse and repeat.
Big Blitz Posted September 11 Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, Walking Tall said: This one just hits different. IMO, it is worse than Trump. Charlie Kirk was just a citizen with a message. A message many Conservatives agreed with and rallied around. I believe things are about to get real bad. Because they essentially shot US. That’s exactly why this is different. Charlie wasn’t an elected official. He was a good kind man like 99 percent of conservatives that was very very good at what he does, sharing and expressing the views we all share in a very compassionate, open, and welcoming setting where anyone was free to debate. We all do this - post on X. Post here. Whatever. Our version of competing in the public square of ideas. And they killed him for being the best at it. His wife and kids are going to see that video for the rest of their lives. Even if they don’t try to ever watch it they know it’s there. We aren’t EVER supposed to see something like that. Unless you are in a war zone. And it happened on a college campus. And these worthless ****s on the left are playing whataboutism and even blaming MAGA??? You feel like we all on the right do. That we share a country with people that legitimately want us dead. 1
Lost Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, but why should it be hard? Just because one kid made it out of the hood doesn’t mean we shouldn’t continue to work to remove these barriers. What are these mythical barriers? I grew up in poverty but I realized the only barrier to finding success was myself and how hard I wanted to work for it. Trump is a supporter of school choice. So if a kid is growing up in the hood and wants a better education there are options. Literally anyone can get government grants for higher education.
boyst Posted September 11 Posted September 11 10 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: So you agree that, to some extent, we have to level the field at least at an early stage to give that kid on Grape St. a fair shot. What he does with it is on him. Work apparently is slow these days. I couldn’t resist. Back to no more joking around now. wfh... it has its slow moments.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yeah, but why should it be hard? Just because one kid made it out of the hood doesn’t mean we shouldn’t continue to work to remove these barriers. Your story about the school was very good. I suspect, though, that the kids weren’t taking your lunch because they hated you, but because they were starving. It’s just that easy huh? Did they threaten to kill me and key my car 4 times because they were starving? I mean they literally used the word "hate" towards me but they didn't hate me? There is no barriers. You can succeed if you want to succeed. Did you know they raised the qualifications to get into college for Asian people but lowered them for black people? Is that a level playing field? Is that making it harder for Asians or harder for Blacks?
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: If the kid on Grape Street has a criminal record and bad grades....that's they systems fault? If the that same kid on Grape Street has no criminal record and good grades....what's stopping him from being successful? Does that mean that every single poor person isn't given a fair shot? People really don't realize this but there is significantly more poor white people in this country. 20 million white Americans live below the poverty line. 20 million that won't get a "fair shot". Johnny Rural is getting the same minimum wage job as your poor black person. 76% of white people make the federal minimum wage. Nobody said anything along the lines of what you’re saying. The point is that kid on grape st deserves a good school, and good transportation to and from school, and maybe a meal or two to help concentrate at school, and a safe school, so he can have an equal shot. The same applies to Johnny Rural, and nobody has said (or acted, for that matter) differently. Get bad grades, or get a RAP record? Not my problem. But they all - grape st and rural America - deserve a fair shot.
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11 Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, Lost said: What are these mythical barriers? I grew up in poverty but I realized the only barrier to finding success was myself and how hard I wanted to work for it. Trump is a supporter of school choice. So if a kid is growing up in the hood and wants a better education there are options. Literally anyone can get government grants for higher education. 100%
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because they essentially shot US. That’s exactly why this is different. Charlie wasn’t an elected official. He was a good kind man like 99 percent of conservatives that was very very good at what he does, sharing and expressing the views we all share in a very compassionate, open, and welcoming setting where anyone was free to debate. We all do this - post on X. Post here. Whatever. Our version of competing in the public square of ideas. And they killed him for being the best at it. His wife and kids are going to see that video for the rest of their lives. Even if they don’t try to ever watch it they know it’s there. We aren’t EVER supposed to see something like that. Unless you are in a war zone. And it happened on a college campus. And these worthless ****s on the left are playing whataboutism and even blaming MAGA??? You feel like we all on the right do. That we share a country with people that legitimately want us dead. But Im a pedo or evil? This is exactly why the rhetoric has to be toned down on both sides. 4 minutes ago, Lost said: What are these mythical barriers? I grew up in poverty but I realized the only barrier to finding success was myself and how hard I wanted to work for it. Trump is a supporter of school choice. So if a kid is growing up in the hood and wants a better education there are options. Literally anyone can get government grants for higher education. School choice (vouchers) isn’t a great solution because it threatens the integrity of the public school system. Same logic applies to rural America. We just agree to disagree there.
Roundybout Posted September 11 Posted September 11 5 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: The barriers you speak of is their culture. Drug dealers glorified, intelligence is looked down upon. Blame everyone. No accountability. Rinse and repeat. I really don’t think they’re “glorified” as much as you think they are. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did they threaten to kill me and key my car 4 times because they were starving? I mean they literally used the word "hate" towards me but they didn't hate me? There is no barriers. You can succeed if you want to succeed. Did you know they raised the qualifications to get into college for Asian people but lowered them for black people? Is that a level playing field? Is that making it harder for Asians or harder for Blacks? Having a single-parent household in a crumbling wood frame duplex full of lead paint is a barrier right there! Substandard housing is one of the roots of the problem. I know they changed entry requirements around, which was stupid. But I don’t think it’s a bad thing to look at a students background and take it into consideration for acceptance! 6 minutes ago, Lost said: What are these mythical barriers? I grew up in poverty but I realized the only barrier to finding success was myself and how hard I wanted to work for it. Trump is a supporter of school choice. So if a kid is growing up in the hood and wants a better education there are options. Literally anyone can get government grants for higher education. See above.
Big Blitz Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: But Im a pedo or evil? This is exactly why the rhetoric has to be toned down on both sides. What? Your side has spent 10 years calling us Nazis and the greatest threat to the country. Your side has spent the last 3 months now calling Trump a pedo. And his voters pedo enablers. The MSM cannot bring itself to admit that THIS rhetoric and way of life (TDS 24/7/365) is not normal or acceptable. 1 1
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Nobody said anything along the lines of what you’re saying. The point is that kid on grape st deserves a good school, and good transportation to and from school, and maybe a meal or two to help concentrate at school, and a safe school, so he can have an equal shot. The same applies to Johnny Rural, and nobody has said (or acted, for that matter) differently. Get bad grades, or get a RAP record? Not my problem. But they all - grape st and rural America - deserve a fair shot. He would have a good school with good teachers if they showed respect towards these teachers. What good teacher wants to teach at a school in which they get threatened on a weekly basis? This is not hearsay, I directly experienced this and watched others. This school had a policy that only one kid in the bathroom at a time because you can't leave the kids alone for even a second because of fights. Why should a good teacher be subjected to that? Why can't this teacher have a fair playing field with students?
Terry Tate Posted September 11 Posted September 11 24 minutes ago, boyst said: Suck my johnson I promise you never said any of this when the pelosi, Biden, etc said all of this. @muppysee yourself out, the adults are talking. I disagree. The adults were the reported 3000 people in attendance who were engaged in debate. I suspect it did not at any time include "suck my johnson" as a core idea or argument. 1
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He would have a good school with good teachers if they showed respect towards these teachers. What good teacher wants to teach at a school in which they get threatened on a weekly basis? This is not hearsay, I directly experienced this and watched others. This school had a policy that only one kid in the bathroom at a time because you can't leave the kids alone for even a second because of fights. Why should a good teacher be subjected to that? Why can't this teacher have a fair playing field with students? Who is “they?” Also, BPS teachers are on the low end of public school pay scale. But I agree that those who want respect must earn it and that the fights, etc. have no place in school or anywhere else. Edited September 11 by SectionC3
Lost Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Having a single-parent household in a crumbling wood frame duplex full of lead paint is a barrier right there! Substandard housing is one of the roots of the problem. Poor families are already heavily subsidized with welfare snap benefits, section 8 housing, etc. If you're suggesting they should be living some posh lifestyle at taxpayer expense until they make it on their own, I will strongly disagree with you. They just become addicted to it and cancel any efforts to break themselves of the culture and cycle of poverty. 1
boyst Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Terry Tate said: I disagree. The adults were the reported 3000 people in attendance who were engaged in debate. I suspect it did not at any time include "suck my johnson" as a core idea or argument. It's to a troll. You must be new here
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I really don’t think they’re “glorified” as much as you think they are. Having a single-parent household in a crumbling wood frame duplex full of lead paint is a barrier right there! Substandard housing is one of the roots of the problem. There are 76 million poor white people in the US and that live below the poverty line. 6 million white people live in substandard housing. 2.6 million blacks live in substandard housing. There are 7 million single white mothers. There are 4 million single black mothers. I mean come on.
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: What? Your side has spent 10 years calling us Nazis and the greatest threat to the country. Your side has spent the last 3 months now calling Trump a pedo. And his voters pedo enablers. The MSM cannot bring itself to admit that THIS rhetoric and way of life (TDS 24/7/365) is not normal or acceptable. It’s turning the same “pedo” stuff that MAGA has tossed around toward people like me (and, in real life, me) back toward MAGA. It’s a form of satire. If you can’t understand that, then I can’t help you,
BillsFanNC Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Lost said: Poor families are already heavily subsidized with welfare snap benefits, section 8 housing, etc. If you're suggesting they should be living some posh lifestyle at taxpayer expense until they make it on their own, I will strongly disagree with you. They just become addicted to it and cancel any efforts to break themselves of the culture and cycle of poverty. He is arguing for that, and not only for US citizens in poverty, but for illegal aliens as well.
Roundybout Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: There are 76 million poor white people in the US and that live below the poverty line. 6 million white people live in substandard housing. 2.6 million blacks live in substandard housing. There are 7 million single white mothers. There are 4 million single black mothers. I mean come on. Sure, but aren’t those higher percentages of the black population as a whole?
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