Andy1 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 10 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Who would have thought trying to reduce crime would be so hard on you? My condolences. Is this the new norm? I would rather see well trained police on our streets. National Guard are not trained for the conflicts encountered in policing. 1 1 1
JDHillFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 7 minutes ago, Andy1 said: I would rather see well trained police on our streets. In the current situation that does not address the issue. The well trained police are being supplemented with well trained guardsmen, some of whom are MP’s. BFD. Something for the left to be upset about. Latest dem position - we need MORE police. 2
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 20 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Is this the new norm? I would rather see well trained police on our streets. National Guard are not trained for the conflicts encountered in policing. This is seriously your response. Pretty sad.
BillsFanNC Posted August 13 Posted August 13 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I would donate. And then donate again. I'd match the $300 here as well. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 13 Posted August 13 11 hours ago, Andy1 said: This is all a power play for Trump to take power and take one more step to being the dictator he sees as himself in his dreams. Nothing is ever enough for the wannabe dictator. Extortion with his golden shares from American universities, law firms, the steel industry, Nvidia, etc. and now he is commanding troops in a US city. You know he will be sending them into a state and Dem city to “clean up the place”. Troops attacking protesters is the image he wants us all to see. There are lots of things the feds could do to try lowering crime in DC, but he goes straight with the military on the streets as his first option. Andy, the federal government has long investigated private and public institutions for discrimination and wrongdoing, offered opinions on the way business is conducted, and set policy related to tax and just about everything else. The mistake you’re making here is assuming if a business has Harvard on its business card it’s above reproach. Your defense of law firms….yikes—I’d hazard a bet that your outrage there stops at the intersection of client list and which political party they tend to represent. Beyond that….I really wonder what the average citizen thinks of crime, violence and the overall management of DC and how far they would like the govt to go to fix it. I have a friend who was raised in San Francisco and we got talking about the homeless/drug/feces problem in the city a couple years back. He was outraged and disgusted by the problem. This is the way I see it—-you purchase, own or rent property in the city at a substantial cost to your budget. You follow the rules of civilized society—are a good steward of the community, keep your place tidy, take care of your garbage, paint the trim, pay your property taxes timely and get alone with your neighbors. Over time, crime creeps up, litter becomes an issue and you arrive at the point where other citizens are using your city block as an outdoor toilet. The problem continues over a number of years, gets worse, more people come bringing with them more litter, more homelessness, more crime and more byproduct of their own digestive system…and you continue soldiering on and following the rules of civilized society. At some point, something has to give and I think the rank and file would embrace the National Guard, Merchant Marines, or Girl Scout Troop 476 out of Omaha that might solve the problem. Using the term very broadly and generally, at some point, the social contract implies when you do your part, on some level those entrusted to their part need to do the job they are in place to do. https://sfstandard.com/2024/12/07/san-franciscos-street-poop-problem-worse/ It seems to me there is a substantial problem in DC, where the argument is “It’s really safe here because we have 7 less murders and less violent sexual assaults than last year!”. 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Jingle jangle! Look at the keys, MAGA! Oh no attempted law and order. Go cheer on some more gang members or murders like Luigi lmao.
Roundybout Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Oh no attempted law and order. Go cheer on some more gang members or murders like Luigi lmao. Jingle jangle! Look at the sparkly object!
JDHillFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Jingle jangle! Look at the sparkly object! This is the kind of thing someone uses, and repeats, when they cannot make a coherent argument. Let’s just mark you down as a “DC was just fine” person. 3
B-Man Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 TO BE FAIR, WHAT ELSE HAVE THEY GOT? The Left’s Feeble Attacks on Trump’s Violent Crime Crackdown. Donald Trump has federalized the Washington, D.C. police and deployed National Guard troops to the city. Trump is arguing that the deployment is in response to a crisis in public safety. Any president in the last 40 years could have declared the same emergency in the district and deployed troops. Trump's move is perfectly legal under the authority granted by the district's Home Rule statute. But Trump's pledge to federalize the police forces of other cities like Chicago, Oakland, and Baltimore will be met with a blizzard of court challenges, given that the president cannot unilaterally send federal troops or federal law enforcement to a city without being invited. That's federalism, and Trump can't do anything about it. Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser claims that Trump's actions are unnecessary because the district's violent crime rate has dropped to a 40-year low. Congratulations are in order for the mayor. D.C. crime is no longer intolerable. It's now only unbearable. Indeed, the statistics Bowser is talking about may have been more than a little cooked. The city recently overhauled its justice system, eliminating dozens of offenses and reducing others from felony to misdemeanor. Also, there is a question about the accuracy of D.C. police reporting. "Data from the US Attorney's Office shows a high rate of declined prosecutions, suggesting a potential disconnect between arrests and actual charges," according to the White House. "Fact check: Violent crime in DC has fallen in 2024 and 2025 after a 2023 spike," claims CNN. Even if this is true, does that mean that Washington, D.C. is "safe" or even "safer"? Trump's point is an important one; we shouldn't have to settle for a "reduction in violent crime." That's a statistic that's meaningless if a family member is a victim or if a citizen doesn't feel safe taking public transportation. We need to make cities safer so that the perception among residents is that they and their families feel safer. It's a point that left-wing Democratic mayors refuse to deal with, which is why Donald Trump made significant electoral inroads in urban America. https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2025/08/12/trumps-federalization-of-dc-police-is-all-about-race-balderdash-n4942616
Big Blitz Posted August 13 Posted August 13 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Jingle jangle! Look at the sparkly object!
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 19 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Jingle jangle! Look at the sparkly object! Just say you have no good response. But you chose to go the sophomoric route. Shocked.
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 13 Posted August 13 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: This is the way I see it—-you purchase, own or rent property in the city at a substantial cost to your budget. You follow the rules of civilized society—are a good steward of the community, keep your place tidy, take care of your garbage, paint the trim, pay your property taxes timely and get alone with your neighbors. Over time, crime creeps up, litter becomes an issue and you arrive at the point where other citizens are using your city block as an outdoor toilet. The problem continues over a number of years, gets worse, more people come bringing with them more litter, more homelessness, more crime and more byproduct of their own digestive system…and you continue soldiering on and following the rules of civilized society. This is what Liberals call a diverse and inclusive multi-cultural community. Something that should be celebrated. Sane and rational people will immediately see a problem with that delusion but the political Left won't and therein lies the problem.
Roundybout Posted August 13 Posted August 13 26 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: This is the kind of thing someone uses, and repeats, when they cannot make a coherent argument. Let’s just mark you down as a “DC was just fine” person. It was, statistically. 24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: False equivalency fallacy and yes, Kia/Hyundai made their cars deliberately unsafe to save a few bucks. F that company. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This is what Liberals call a diverse and inclusive multi-cultural community. Something that should be celebrated. Sane and rational people will immediately see a problem with that delusion but the political Left won't and therein lies the problem. Agreed. Some things aren't complicated. Reasonable people want reasonably safe streets that are not littered with needles, garbage, cr@p and where criminals are kept at bay. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: It was, statistically. False equivalency fallacy and yes, Kia/Hyundai made their cars deliberately unsafe to save a few bucks. F that company. How about blaming the thiefs? Of course not.
Roundybout Posted August 13 Posted August 13 20 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: How about blaming the thiefs? Of course not. You are putting words in my mouth.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Just now, Roundybout said: You are putting words in my mouth. Go on then, blame the theives....... 1
Roundybout Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Go on then, blame the theives....... Sure. We also can blame Hyundai for making garbage cars with no basic safety features lmao
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