Dunkirk Donski Posted yesterday at 05:55 PM Posted yesterday at 05:55 PM Prime Pete Metzelaars could outrun Kincaid. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted yesterday at 07:01 PM Posted yesterday at 07:01 PM 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: If Kelly played here right out of college it could be debated that we'd have more success in 1983/1984/1985 and not be bad enough to earn the top pick in 1985 and have no shot at Bruce Smith or some of the other players we got in those drafts (see Reich, Reed to a degree Burkett. Wolford, Rolle) So going to Houston conversely helped him here in not only have him develop but also us get a better supporting cast that ultimately he joined us in 1986 Good point. Never thought of it that way. So many key players in Bills history Quote
BigDingus Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago 12 hours ago, Logic said: Four things stand out: - The lack of shotgun. Amazing how much the game has changed on offense. - The way that the game has changed on 4th downs. Any kind of 4th down back then -- even a yard or less -- was automatically a kick situation. This has changed so much in the last few years. - Kelly had such a unique throwing motion. Instantly recognizable to anyone who grew up watching the Bills. - Would've been a baaaad day to be going against Andre Reed in fantasy football I think Kelly played a lot in shotgun in certain games. Shortly after I posted this video, I came across this one titled "0 Punts & 1,000+ Yards of Offense is Pretty Cool! (Bills vs 49ers 1992, Week 2)" and it's Kelly vs Young just airing it out. Seemed like a lot of the game was played from shotgun, threw for 403 yards & 3 TDs, and man there were some big hits! Totally agree about Kelly's throwing motion. I actually forgot how good of an arm he had & how quickly he made decisions. He would sometimes scramble a bit after his drop back to buy some more time, but what most stood out to me was his passing mechanics when throwing on the run. In fact, after this game, I then re-watched the Bills vs Dolphins Divisional Round game from 1991 & watched Kelly scramble quite a bit. What really stood out wasn't just the big runs, it was that he finished nearly every one with a slide, followed by defenders hitting him on the ground. No flags, as that wasn't a thing yet, but it's crazy to see how they were allowed to take shots at a guy sliding time & time again. 1 Quote
Logic Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, Dunkirk Donski said: Prime Pete Metzelaars could outrun Kincaid. There are some players from our favorite teams that we grow up watching that, to us, seem like superheroes and the best to ever do it. We waaaay overrate their ability and love them as players, because in our youth and our lack of watching teams other than our favorite ones, they just seem like the best to us. Metzelaars was one of those dudes for me. I mean...he played 16 years in the NFL, so he was certainly a good player. But if you asked 50 random NFL fans or historians who their favorite 80s and 90s TEs were, I doubt you'd get a lot of Metzelaars answers. To childhood me, he was a total beast. At 6'7" and 254 lbs, the dude just looked like a machine out there. As a kid, I just assumed ALL tight ends were giant, hulking stork people who looked like they could beat up your dad. Loved that dude. Edited 8 hours ago by Logic 1 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Logic said: There are some players from our favorite teams that we grow up watching that, to us, seem like superheroes and the best to ever do it. We waaaay overrate their ability and love them as players, because in our youth and our lack of watching teams other than our favorite ones, they just seem like the best to us. Metzelaars was one of those dudes for me. I mean...he played 16 years in the NFL, so he was certainly a good player. But if you asked 50 random NFL fans or historians who their favorite 80s and 90s TEs were, I doubt you'd get a lot of Metzelaars answers. To childhood me, he was a total beast. At 6'7" and 254 lbs, the dude just looked like a machine out there. As a kid, I just assumed ALL tight ends were giant, hulking stork people who looked like they could beat up your dad. Loved that dude. That's how I felt about Jay Riemersma. He didn't have as long of a career as Metzelaars did, but he came on right as I was getting old enough to understand more of the game, and he seemed like he caught EVERYTHING. Years later, I looked up his stats & was shocked how "normal" they looked. In my young mind, he must've been a monster that averaged 800+ receiving yards each year, yet he only topped 500 yards once 😅 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 6/14/2025 at 10:18 PM, Walking Tall said: Tampa….but Tampa didn’t play in Buffalo the first 33 years of their existence. Also, the Cardinals never won at the Bills current stadium. But they did win one at War Memorial. LOL. I remember being at that game with my dad. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Sure do miss Steve Christie He's still around doing Lake Effect Furniture commercials, showing up at my cousin's wedding etc. 1 Quote
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