BREAKING America - one bribe at a time – Trump’s gravy train just got a Boeing

[JDHillFan]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

As someone who has done a lot of work with businessmen from the subcontinent, Indians are a very prideful people. Maybe they want the credit?

I never would have guessed a WNY based, government-employed, urban planner would have done a lot of work with businessmen from the subcontinent. Bullsh*t detector, ENGAGE. 

[Wacka]

He was a dishwasher in an Indian restaurant in NF while in HS.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

They don't want to give him credit and/or they're splitting hairs that while Trump brought them together Rubio didn't contribute significantly to the negotiations.  Pakistan already thanked Trump, that in itself tells everyone all we need to know.

 

Yeah.  Very odd on India's part.

 

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

I don't care about the politics, this is yet another situation that should rise above it and uphold the Constitution.  That is the most disturbing thing no matter what your politics.

 

I don't care about the plane being given.  If it's going to cost the taxpayers tons of money to upgrade/secure it, it's not worth it.  And he shouldn't be able to use it after he's out of Office.

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

I never would have guessed a WNY based, government-employed, urban planner would have done a lot of work with businessmen from the subcontinent. Bullsh*t detector, ENGAGE. 

Ah, you’ve never met an Indian property owner or developer have you?

[JDHillFan]

33 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Ah, you’ve never met an Indian property owner or developer have you?

That probably makes two of us. You outed yourself as a fabulist with your stories of multiple house purchases. It’s hard to take your word for anything. 

[T master]

On 5/11/2025 at 10:59 AM, Homelander said:

Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the US Constitution: 

 

"...no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State."

 

 

The present wasn't from a king, prince or foreign state but an American company right ? Which if so makes this story even better !! 

 

Boeing owned and Made in America baby so go suck it !!!

Edited 17 hours ago by T master

[GaryPinC]

10 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah.  Very odd on India's part.

 

 

I don't care about the plane being given.  If it's going to cost the taxpayers tons of money to upgrade/secure it, it's not worth it.  And he shouldn't be able to use it after he's out of Office.

India wants to be respected as a world superpower so downplaying the US role is to be expected. 

 

We're in general agreement about the plane.  Can you or anyone please explain how accepting this 400 million gift without congressional approval DOESN'T violate the US constitution ?

[Roundybout]

10 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

That probably makes two of us. You outed yourself as a fabulist with your stories of multiple house purchases. It’s hard to take your word for anything. 

 

Well DM me and I'll be happy to share stories. Would prefer to keep them off public eye.

[Doc]

3 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

India wants to be respected as a world superpower so downplaying the US role is to be expected. 

 

We're in general agreement about the plane.  Can you or anyone please explain how accepting this 400 million gift without congressional approval DOESN'T violate the US constitution ?

 

I would think Pakistan would want the same respect and they praised Trump.  Again very odd.

 

Because it's not a personal gift to him.  Or at least shouldn't be.  Again if he uses it for official business while President and it's retired after that, fine.

Edited 5 hours ago by Doc

[Roundybout]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I would think Pakistan would want the same respect and they praised Trump.  Again very odd.

 

Because it's not a personal gift to him.  Or at least shouldn't be.  Again if he uses it for official business while President and it's retired after that, fine.

It’s going to cost us an insipid amount of money to bring it to AF1 standards. Why bother?

[JDHillFan]

29 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It’s going to cost us an insipid amount of money to bring it to AF1 standards. Why bother?

Horrible use of insipid. HORRIBLE. 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Horrible use of insipid. HORRIBLE. 

 

Fair. Inconceivable then. 

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

It’s going to cost us an insipid amount of money to bring it to AF1 standards. Why bother?

 

If it will cost an exorbitant amount, I agree.

[GaryPinC]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I would think Pakistan would want the same respect and they praised Trump.  Again very odd.

 

Because it's not a personal gift to him.  Or at least shouldn't be.  Again if he uses it for official business while President and it's retired after that, fine.

The Constitution states Congress must approve this gift by a foreign country or it's not allowed.  This defines acceptance of foreign gifts while serving in a government capacity.

 

Is there some reason you feel this doesn't apply or should not be the case?  Anyone please feel free to answer.

 

Is POTUS allowed to fly on anything other than AF-1 whether official or personal flights?  I'm curious because I would guess while in office he always flies AF-1 for security reasons.

[sherpa]

5 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

The Constitution states Congress must approve this gift by a foreign country or it's not allowed.  This defines acceptance of foreign gifts while serving in a government capacity.

 

Is there some reason you feel this doesn't apply or should not be the case?  Anyone please feel free to answer.

 

Is POTUS allowed to fly on anything other than AF-1 whether official or personal flights?  I'm curious because I would guess while in office he always flies AF-1 for security reasons.

 

For apolitical, edification purposes.

 

Whenever the President flies, it is designated "1."

Could be the Marine helicopter, in which case it would be Marine 1.

 

Could be other airplane types that the gov has access to. they occasionally use a 757 for the Pres.

It is mostly the 747 because of comm and defense capability, but not always.

 

To answer the question, it isn't always one of the two 747's specifically for this purpose, depending on where they are going and runway situation.

[GaryPinC]

3 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

For apolitical, edification purposes.

 

Whenever the President flies, it is designated "1."

Could be the Marine helicopter, in which case it would be Marine 1.

 

Could be other airplane types that the gov has access to. they occasionally use a 757 for the Pres.

It is mostly the 747 because of comm and defense capability, but not always.

 

To answer the question, it isn't always one of the two 747's specifically for this purpose, depending on where they are going and runway situation.

Cool, thanks!  I hadn't considered the helicopter and any others.  My greater question is can the President fly a non-government approved (personal, private or charter) plane for personal reasons?  I just imagine during office he can't, because of security reasons.

[Doc]

24 minutes ago, GaryPinC said:

The Constitution states Congress must approve this gift by a foreign country or it's not allowed.  This defines acceptance of foreign gifts while serving in a government capacity.

 

Is there some reason you feel this doesn't apply or should not be the case?  Anyone please feel free to answer.

 

Is POTUS allowed to fly on anything other than AF-1 whether official or personal flights?  I'm curious because I would guess while in office he always flies AF-1 for security reasons.

 

I do think Congress should vote on it.

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

Cool, thanks!  I hadn't considered the helicopter and any others.  My greater question is can the President fly a non-government approved (personal, private or charter) plane for personal reasons?  I just imagine during office he can't, because of security reasons.

 

He can do what he wants, but the Secret Service would endure mass resignations if he did.

There is massive security when the president moves, including  localized cell phone jamming, massive road closures and a host of other things.

During his term, the president has no "personal reasons."

 

When he travels in the US, AF1 has a significant bubble around it. It is handled using a discrete frequency away from normal ATC comm, though in the same airspace.

 

I did hear it called by a Northwest Territory Canadian controller on an Obama return from Asia, when I was doing the same,  but I don't think that was intentional.

 

Whenever in any foreign airspace, it uses a different call sign, so as not to alert, but always specifically handled away from normal traffic.

 

[GaryPinC]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I do think Congress should vote on it.

Sure, why aren't they?  I don't know but perhaps he doesn't have enough support for doing this in his own party?  And that silence speaks loudly to me about what the truth of the situation is. 

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

He can do what he wants, but the Secret Service would endure mass resignations if he did.

There is massive security when the president moves, including  localized cell phone jamming, massive road closures and a host of other things.

During his term, the president has no "personal reasons."

 

When he travels in the US, AF1 has a significant bubble around it. It is handled using a discrete frequency away from normal ATC comm, though in the same airspace.

 

I did hear it called by a Northwest Territory Canadian controller on an Obama return from Asia, when I was doing the same,  but I don't think that was intentional.

 

Whenever in any foreign airspace, it uses a different call sign, so as not to alert, but always specifically handled away from normal traffic.

 

Thanks for the insights, very cool.  👍  

[Albwan]

Imagine if lefties were concerned with average citizens and the deficit rather than every goddamned 

thing Trump does...they might be in charge