The Frankish Reich Posted Wednesday at 09:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 09:15 PM Not just saying the quiet part out loud. No. Actually boasting that he - the Attorney General of Florida - is going to participate in a sham of due process (note the quotes around the word "process") by having national guard JAGs play immigration judge in kangaroo courts. This out to get you disbarred.
JDHillFan Posted Wednesday at 10:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:08 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: No need for the nastiness. Haven’t we been over the need for some self-awareness? Good lord. 1
nedboy7 Posted Wednesday at 10:19 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:19 PM 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: The point is to cause as much human suffering as possible. That’s the entire MAGA ideology. It’s completely indefensible You nailed it. They love to demonize groups and get off on their suffering. Who the ***** isn't into deporting criminals. This is not that. Dems botched immigration no argument there. This is even worse policy. MAGA is driven by fear. Fear leads to cruelty. 1
Roundybout Posted Wednesday at 11:33 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:33 PM 2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: So why can't they have all that on the country they came from? why do they get to benefit from their parents breaking laws? Many reasons. Developing nations don’t have the capacity for a welfare net, or even basic services. They do not have the same trade agreements and access to the global market. They don’t have the purchasing power for goods like medicine and raw materials. 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: Haven’t we been over the need for some self-awareness? Good lord. I enjoy conversing with @Orlando Buffalo because he argues in good faith and doesn’t resort to digging up posts from two years ago as some kind of “gotcha”
JDHillFan Posted Wednesday at 11:36 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:36 PM 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Many reasons. Developing nations don’t have the capacity for a welfare net, or even basic services. They do not have the same trade agreements and access to the global market. They don’t have the purchasing power for goods like medicine and raw materials. I enjoy conversing with @Orlando Buffalo because he argues in good faith and doesn’t resort to digging up posts from two years ago as some kind of “gotcha” Sounds like you may have an aversion to assorted comments you’ve made along the way. That’s too bad. 1
Roundybout Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM 34 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Sounds like you may have an aversion to assorted comments you’ve made along the way. That’s too bad. No, I have an aversion to people who can’t make an actual argument so they resort to gotcha nonsense like that.
JDHillFan Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM Just now, Roundybout said: No, I have an aversion to people who can’t make an actual argument so they resort to gotcha nonsense like that. I would be embarrassed too. You’ve dropped some real doozies along the way. Such is the problem with cyberspace.
Roundybout Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I would be embarrassed too. You’ve dropped some real doozies along the way. Such is the problem with cyberspace. I guess if I didn’t know how to read an academic paper, that would be my argument style as well 1
JFKjr Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM 11 hours ago, Roundybout said: Nah. You didn’t answer my question. What is the difference between the child of a migrant and one of a “legal” immigrant? The illegal migrant child is more likely to be trafficked. 1
4th&long Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Alligator Alcatraz Sinks? Donald Trump’s New Florida Detention Facility Floods Day After His Hurricane-Proof Claim https://flip.it/p4m61k Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Orlando Buffalo Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 11 hours ago, Roundybout said: Many reasons. Developing nations don’t have the capacity for a welfare net, or even basic services. They do not have the same trade agreements and access to the global market. They don’t have the purchasing power for goods like medicine and raw materials. Why don't we leave them there and push them to develop as we have? Jumping someone from a 3rd grade education to a high school education is always a failure, why do you believe bringing people from a poorly educated, low level civilization, will be different without vetting the people first?
SectionC3 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Why don't we leave them there and push them to develop as we have? Jumping someone from a 3rd grade education to a high school education is always a failure, why do you believe bringing people from a poorly educated, low level civilization, will be different without vetting the people first? This is why people from Florida should stay in Florida. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 45 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: This is why people from Florida should stay in Florida. what a great burn, it certainly shows an ability to process the material being presented in an intelligent manner. 1
Roundybout Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Why don't we leave them there and push them to develop as we have? Jumping someone from a 3rd grade education to a high school education is always a failure, why do you believe bringing people from a poorly educated, low level civilization, will be different without vetting the people first? With what resources are they developing? How are they to change their institutions? We used to help with that. Then MAGA decided it was communism and now millions will die. 1
BillsFanNC Posted 14 hours ago Author Posted 14 hours ago RoundyMao wants completely open borders and total amnesty for anyone currently here illegally. I'm not sure how he can be anymore clear on this, and yet people still want to debate him on his position that 80% of the electorate staunchly disagrees with him on. He's forever lost to reality. Let. Him. Go. 1
Roundybout Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: RoundyMao wants completely open borders and total amnesty for anyone currently here illegally. I'm not sure how he can be anymore clear on this, and yet people still want to debate him on his position that 80% of the electorate staunchly disagrees with him on. He's forever lost to reality. Let. Him. Go. Yes, I support the free movement of people where they see fit. I have never said anything about total amnesty. If you want to come up with an actual plan to get the real criminals out, instead of “mass deportations,” go for it. But that’s not the goal. More funding for ICE with plans to begin stripping citizenship away from Americans is a gigantic warning flag. You support an authoritarian government that’s increasingly stomping on all immigration and people who don’t fall in lockstep with the MAGA ideology.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Yes, I support the free movement of people where they see fit. I have never said anything about total amnesty. If you want to come up with an actual plan to get the real criminals out, instead of “mass deportations,” go for it. But that’s not the goal. More funding for ICE with plans to begin stripping citizenship away from Americans is a gigantic warning flag. You support an authoritarian government that’s increasingly stomping on all immigration and people who don’t fall in lockstep with the MAGA ideology. Rich, bet you supported the government in stripping peoples rights during covid for the greater good. Same principle applies but maga is bad for it. 1
Roundybout Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Rich, bet you supported the government in stripping peoples rights during covid for the greater good. Same principle applies but maga is bad for it. In what f-ing universe is “wear a mask for covid” equivalent to “we’re taking away your citizenship and sending you to Sudan?” 1
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