AlBUNDY4TDS Posted July 1 Posted July 1 31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: So Trumpies, help me to understand: - we need tariffs to bring back the basic production jobs that have largely moved overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor. - therefore, we should put tariffs on foreign goods, including agricultural products, to encourage U.S. production - but we cannot grow tomatoes economically in the United States without foreign labor - so we should import (provide some kind of "pass" according to Trump; we call that a work visa) to Mexicans to come and pick our tomatoes here In what way, then, does a tariff on tomatoes protect American jobs? I think he's throwing stuff at the wall to see what will stick. Still miles better than whatever leadership was under the previous administration. 1
Doc Brown Posted July 1 Posted July 1 3 hours ago, Homelander said: If Trump had just sat on his hands and let the economy he inherited do its thing, we wouldn’t be watching GDP shrink, the dollar tank, tourism flatline, and inflation creep back up. But hey, tariffs and chaos are apparently the new growth strategy. Enjoy the day you voted for! No. The reassurances they'd extend the tax cuts and the deregulation should've produced the sugar high investor reaction like his first term. Blown opportunity with his tariffs as interest rates would be lower and the stock market would be higher. More small businesses, jobs, even lower inflation, etc... 1
Homelander Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:08 PM 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: No. The reassurances they'd extend the tax cuts and the deregulation should've produced the sugar high investor reaction like his first term. Blown opportunity with his tariffs as interest rates would be lower and the stock market would be higher. More small businesses, jobs, even lower inflation, etc... Yes. He told you what he was going to do and you still voted for it. He called tariffs his “favorite” and “most beautiful” word. Promised 10%, 20%, even 60% on China. Said it would raise revenue, hit imports, rebuild industry. Now we’re all paying for it. Just like he and Elon said you would. 1
Doc Brown Posted Wednesday at 08:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 08:35 PM 1 hour ago, B-Man said: He's lying. Vietnam won't pay a penny. US companies using cheap Vietnamese labor will be the one's paying the 20% tariff thus it's passed onto the American tax payer. I don't even know if he realizes that. If he does that's not a lot of respect for his followers.
B-Man Posted Wednesday at 10:47 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:47 PM Let's see...................... Should I believe The US Secretary of commerce, with decades of financial experience or Doc Brown ? 1
JFKjr Posted Thursday at 01:21 AM Posted Thursday at 01:21 AM On 7/1/2025 at 11:32 AM, The Frankish Reich said: So Trumpies, help me to understand: - we need tariffs to bring back the basic production jobs that have largely moved overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor. - therefore, we should put tariffs on foreign goods, including agricultural products, to encourage U.S. production - but we cannot grow tomatoes economically in the United States without foreign labor - so we should import (provide some kind of "pass" according to Trump; we call that a work visa) Mexicans to come and pick our tomatoes here In what way, then, does a tariff on tomatoes protect American jobs? I like that you've shifted from eggs to tomatoes.
The Frankish Reich Posted Thursday at 01:45 AM Author Posted Thursday at 01:45 AM 23 minutes ago, JFKjr said: I like that you've shifted from eggs to tomatoes. Hah! I have no need for store-bought tomatoes until mid-October. I just picked the first ripe ones of the year.
B-Man Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Trump’s 'Take It or Leave It' Tariff Blitz Is Bigger Than Monday David Manney Need another example of 'this isn't your grandfather's president"? Forget quiet, back-channel diplomatic communications. President Trump grabbed a bullhorn, walked into the center of a mass of people, and blasted five words that reverberated off the walls: "Take it or leave it!" Twelve countries will receive letters from the president tomorrow, notifying them that their 90-day grace period is about to expire, much like a person realizing too late that their coffee was not decaf. If they miss their July 9 cutoff, tariffs of up to 70 percent will hit them like a falling piano on a sidewalk. The FO'd, and now they will FA. A soft handshake of sorts was shared in April in the form of a 90-day grace period. This was the quiet warning that's been in diplomatic circles for generations. Except those circles have been made irrelevant. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent cut to the chase: Those countries will be staring at that letter the way I used to when receiving service interruption notices without having a job. The president isn't pressuring them; he's simply following through on what he said he'd do. Instead of wanting to play fair with our country in trade, some of those countries seem like they're "going to the mattresses." Australia is sending warnings about increasing prices. Dairy farms in Canada are holding their breath. Manufacturers in Mexico have been holding emergency meetings. With industries totally depending on American buyers, it seems that nobody wants to be on the receiving end of a 70 percent slap. Rebalancing trade imbalance should have taken place a long time ago. One penny at a time, we've been bled dry over decades, resulting in a $12 trillion deficit. That amount isn't abstract; over time, it was factory shut-downs, pensions disappearing, and vibrant towns dependent on "the mill" being quiet. {snip} This isn’t Grandpa’s diplomacy. It isn’t a slow-burn compromise. This is fast, intentional leverage. This is American comeback energy. Whether they sign by July 9 or not, the message is the same: we’ve noticed the imbalance. We’re not silent anymore. And we expect fair play, because we built the market that enables the world. Trump just stopped waiting. And, like it or not, the rest of the world will. https://pjmedia.com/david-manney/2025/07/06/trumps-take-it-or-leave-it-tariff-blitz-is-bigger-than-monday-n4941481
The Frankish Reich Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago On 7/5/2025 at 10:09 PM, B-Man said: Some would call this an unfair trade practice.
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