oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, mrags said: Whatever man. Diggs had more than a step on his single coverage with no safety help. If Josh doesnt under throw that ball it’s a sure TD One step. And a smart QB knows not to underthrow a pass going back across the middle of the field. Quit treating the guy as if he’s the second coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Airseven said: Cam Newton-lite is nothing to scoff at. I appreciate the art of trolling, and this is a grade-A troll post. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Airseven said: Cam Newton-lite is nothing to scoff at. Go back to Chiefs kingdom board Nick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, McBean said: And the media puppets say he stinks. We are so fortunate to have #17 on our team. Way to go Josh. The best to ever take a snap in Buffalo Bills history. Yes we are fortunate. And also yes he has to stop throwing dumb picks. They are not mutually exclusive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: We all love Josh, we all think he’ll bring a Lombardi to WNY, but you can set your watch by the dumb picks he throws time after time. A lot of QB's this season are throwing nearly as many picks or losing more fumbles while not coming close to producing the TD's Allen does. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: A lot of QB's this season are throwing nearly as many picks or losing more fumbles while not coming close to producing the TD's Allen does. As I said I love Josh as we all do. But the picks kill us. Imagine how much greater he’d be without them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: One step. And a smart QB knows not to underthrow a pass going back across the middle of the field. Quit treating the guy as if he’s the second coming. Again I have been the most vocal here about Josh and his deep throws falling short. It’s happened for years now and I’ve been shut down time and time again. But this is not the time to make an argument about his decision to throw that ball. Diggs was open. One step with single coverage on someone like Diggs is about as open as you can expect in the NFL. The problem wasn’t the decision to throw it. It was the throw itself. You want to chalk it up to not having good footing or throwing it across body, or maybe it’s Joshs arm is hurt like many are claiming. Fine. But the fact is, the ball was under thrown by at least 2-3 yards. And if it’s not it’s a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, mrags said: Again I have been the most vocal here about Josh and his deep throws falling short. It’s happened for years now and I’ve been shut down time and time again. But this is not the time to make an argument about his decision to throw that ball. Diggs was open. One step with single coverage on someone like Diggs is about as open as you can expect in the NFL. The problem wasn’t the decision to throw it. It was the throw itself. You want to chalk it up to not having good footing or throwing it across body, or maybe it’s Joshs arm is hurt like many are claiming. Fine. But the fact is, the ball was under thrown by at least 2-3 yards. And if it’s not it’s a TD. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, oldmanfan said: Yes we are fortunate. And also yes he has to stop throwing dumb picks. They are not mutually exclusive. They are mutually exclusive: * First off the INT last night was not a dumb throw. It was a good decision that might have gone the distance had Allen put a couple of more yards on what was a very difficult throw. * Second, Allen's high TD production is in part due to his willingness to take risks. INT's are a natural result of risk taking. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Yes we are fortunate. And also yes he has to stop throwing dumb picks. They are not mutually exclusive. Throwing a ball 50 yards down field on the run and coming up short by 3 yards isn’t a dumb pick. outside of mahomes, not another qb in the league can throw that ball he tried 40 yards on that angle. chill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 He seems like a good player but I want to hear thoughts from Bob Jones before saying yes or no either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: As I said I love Josh as we all do. But the picks kill us. Imagine how much greater he’d be without them. Check out Bob Seger's song "beautiful loser" most times you just can't have it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, McBean said: Throwing a ball 50 yards down field on the run and coming up short by 3 yards isn’t a dumb pick. outside of mahomes, not another qb in the league can throw that ball he tried 40 yards on that angle. chill. Tried. And failed. 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: They are mutually exclusive: * First off the INT last night was not a dumb throw. It was a good decision that might have gone the distance had Allen put a couple of more yards on what was a very difficult throw. * Second, Allen's high TD production is in part due to his willingness to take risks. INT's are a natural result of risk taking. Dumb picks are Josh’s Achilles heel unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas. Right. Ifs and buts. You’re saying he makes bad decisions. In saying he makes some bad throws. There’s a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: One step. And a smart QB knows not to underthrow a pass going back across the middle of the field. Quit treating the guy as if he’s the second coming. You claim you "love Allen" then call him dumb. Sorry but I read your posts and I don't buy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, mrags said: Right. Ifs and buts. You’re saying he makes bad decisions. In saying he makes some bad throws. There’s a difference. I see your point. I would say throwing deep back across into the middle of the field is not a good decision. Just now, CincyBillsFan said: You claim you "love Allen" then call him dumb. Sorry but I read your posts and I don't buy it. Love the guy but he makes some dumb decisions. They again are not exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I see your point. I would say throwing deep back across into the middle of the field is not a good decision. Love the guy but he makes some dumb decisions. They again are not exclusive. I’m done with you here. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, mrags said: I’m done with you here. Enjoy You’ll accept reality at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: You’ll accept reality at some point. Sure thing guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Josh’s mechanics have taken a step back this year. On that deep pick, he had plenty of time to set his feet and make a more accurate throw. As it was, he was rolling to his right (his favorite play) and threw back across the field which resulted in an under throw. Good decision, bad execution. Josh needs to work on his footwork and mechanics again this off season with Palmer and start taking the off season a little more seriously. He’s falling back into some bad habits which is evidenced by his decreased accuracy. We all sit there in the first 2 series to see which Josh we are getting. We’ve seen more of inaccurate Josh this year and I think it’s just a matter of not being consistent with mechanics. Still, I’ll take this guy over any other QB in the league including Mahomes 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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