90sBills Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 45 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: It was a dangerous combo for the reasons he pointed out, but one a team in a must win position with Super Bowl aspirations should overcome as you pointed out. Some will say we did in fact overcome it, but to me, I just don't see the big black and white differences that would make me think much has changed as so many other do. We are running the football more, sure. We are also going on long offensive droughts where we can't generate a first down. Defense is touch and go. We let a 2nd stringer with very few weapons move the ball pretty easily. I really don't see what so many are seeing as far as this team making some glorious playoff run. I don't know what evidence we have to lean on such a consideration. I don't put Dallas on the level the national media did especially on the road. They have had so many late season choke jobs against decent teams. Then we beat KC on a coin flipper. Same as SD. Good to see coin flippers go our way, but what is really making this iteration of the Bills better than previous ones? People who think the Bills can win the Superbowl this year will be disappointed. Take it one week at a time and enjoy the ride because it will end without a Lombardi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, 90sBills said: People who think the Bills can win the Superbowl this year will be disappointed. Take it one week at a time and enjoy the ride because it will end without a Lombardi. What team in the AFC looks significantly better and has been playing more consistent football this season? I’m not saying they’re winning the whole damn thing, but they’re as dangerous as anyone, possibly more dangerous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: I appreciate the optimism, but that was the Bills Super Bowl as well. If they lost, they go home. Season is likely over. Can't let teams stick around like that. Love the win though and I'm thrilled, regardless. please refrain from using the word “stick” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: What team in the AFC looks significantly better and has been playing more consistent football this season? I’m not saying they’re winning the whole damn thing, but they’re as dangerous as anyone, possibly more dangerous. Agree but they are equally as bad as anyone too. If we get the good version of the Bills then look out. A bad version and we know the results. This team has a low floor and a high ceiling. They are capable of missing the playoffs or winning it all. Let's hope for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 90sBills said: People who think the Bills can win the Superbowl this year will be disappointed. Take it one week at a time and enjoy the ride because it will end without a Lombardi. I love these ‘I’m smarter than other people because I’m predicting a team won’t win the superbowl’ type posts lol. Winning the superbowl is extremely difficult in a single game elimination playoff structure even for the best team in the league…it’s not exactly a bold prediction that any individual team won’t win it 😂 Every year a team wins the superbowl that had some amount of fans posting about how they had no chance of winning it Edited December 24, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: What team in the AFC looks significantly better and has been playing more consistent football this season? I’m not saying they’re winning the whole damn thing, but they’re as dangerous as anyone, possibly more dangerous. We don’t string together 3-4 wins against above .500 teams. We don’t win close games at an above .500 rate. We don’t win OT games. So I get why it’s popular to say how dangerous we could be, but being dangerous in the context you’re using requires a team to win close games and have the gods of luck on your side. Which you can usually help along by making great decisions, playing clean, etc. which is why we tend not to be able to be that sort of team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Agree but they are equally as bad as anyone too. If we get the good version of the Bills then look out. A bad version and we know the results. This team has a low floor and a high ceiling. They are capable of missing the playoffs or winning it all. Let's hope for the latter. If almost losing or losing to a bad team disqualified you from the superbowl nobody would ever win it lol we’re going back a month and a half to when we blew a winnable game to show our team could lose to anybody after a close win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I love these ‘I’m smarter than other people because I’m predicting a team won’t win the superbowl’ type posts lol. Winning the superbowl is extremely difficult in a single game elimination playoff structure even for the best team in the league…it’s not exactly a bold prediction that any individual team won’t win it 😂 Every year a team wins the superbowl that had some amount of fans posting about how they had no chance of winning it I think it’s more “I’m smarter” to realize nothing material has changed in the makeup or performance of this team from the start of the year so to think they will somehow outperform previous years in which they were better is really short sighted. That is actually a contrarian opinion at this time. The larger opinion is it was all Dorsey, McD either learned or never needed to learn, and we are vastly improved from earlier this year. Edited December 24, 2023 by Mikie2times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: If almost losing or losing to a bad team disqualified you from the superbowl nobody would ever win it lol we’re going back a month and a half to when we blew a winnable game to show our team could lose to anybody after a close win? You missed my point completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Agree but they are equally as bad as anyone too. If we get the good version of the Bills then look out. A bad version and we know the results. This team has a low floor and a high ceiling. They are capable of missing the playoffs or winning it all. Let's hope for the latter. They may be inconsistent, but they’re not low floor. We’ve watched them bottom out this year and it resulted in 1 score losses that were entirely winnable. That’s not low floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: You missed my point completely. I don’t think I did 😂. There’s a good version of the team and a bad version of the team (literally every team has good and bad games) and if the bad version shows up we are screwed (can say that about literally any team) If the good version shows up we can beat anybody. my counter point is the good version has shown up far more than the bad recently and we found a way to win today when things didn’t go our way so I am questioning heavily the ‘we can lose to any team’ part of your post…low floor is crazy too we are in every game I mean I get this whole boogeyman argument of wow we struggled against x team just wait until we see insert superbowl contender but we have showed up for those games Edited December 24, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: low floor is crazy too we are in every game We’re not low floor. That was an incredibly incorrect statement. Edited December 24, 2023 by JGMcD2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I think it’s more “I’m smarter” to realize nothing material has changed in the makeup or performance of this team from the start of the year so to think they will somehow outperform previous years in which they were better is really short sighted. That is actually a contrarian opinion at this time. The larger opinion is it was all Dorsey, McD either learned or never needed to learn, and we are vastly improved from earlier this year. Idk what time period you’re saying nothing has changed from specifically…early in the year we were destroying people then we were vastly outmatched on the defensive side after losing Daquan,tre white, Matt Milano, and I believe Ed Oliver was out for that pats loss also. If you’re saying nothing has changed since that low point in the season I vehemently disagree 😂. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion though. 2-1 vs kc and Dallas with a loss after an absolute missile of a fg in the rain vs philly showed me this team can succeed in the playoffs. I don’t think a close win on a short week cross country road trip takes much away from that especially with Daquan and AJE and Micah Hyde returning soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t think I did 😂. There’s a good version of the team and a bad version of the team (literally every team has good and bad games) and if the bad version shows up we are screwed (can say that about literally any team) If the good version shows up we can beat anybody. my counter point is the good version has shown up far more than the bad recently and we found a way to win today when things didn’t go our way so I am questioning heavily the ‘we can lose to any team’ part of your post…low floor is crazy too we are in every game I mean I get this whole boogeyman argument of wow we struggled against x team just wait until we see insert superbowl contender but we have showed up for those games Still missing the point. The Bills ceiling is by far higher than probably every team in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: Chargers fired all their canons They played hard 60 minutes Give it to the interim staff they had the team playing hard with nothing on the line and Bills fans having taken over their stadium I knew we weren't going to get the crappy Staley version of this team. Giff had them all fired up despite over half the fans were Mafia. It just felt all game like Josh & Co. we're off. More ridiculous turnovers. Very little production from Diggs, Cook and Kincaid. Just a "win and survive" game like the Giants. Edited December 24, 2023 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I knew we weren't going to get the crappy Staley version of this team. Giff had them all fired up despite over half the fans were Mafia. It just felt all game like Josh & Co. we're off. More ridiculous turnovers. Very little production from Diggs, Cook and Kincaid. Just a "win and survive" game like the Giants. Los Angeles friend echoed your sentiments. 50% Bills fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, 90sBills said: People who think the Bills can win the Superbowl this year will be disappointed. Take it one week at a time and enjoy the ride because it will end without a Lombardi. Odds are they won't but that won't stop me from cheering for the best. They can be a very dangerous team. Tonight wasn't a great example of that They have to play better and hopefully they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 24, 2023 Author Share Posted December 24, 2023 Was just listening to McD’s postgame press conference and he mentioned that the Chargers were doing some things they haven’t done all year. Wasn’t on film. That’s another reason why teams get an interim coach bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Was just listening to McD’s postgame press conference and he mentioned that the Chargers were doing some things they haven’t done all year. Wasn’t on film. That’s another reason why teams get an interim coach bump. Full of excuses. This game shouldn't even have been close. Stop with your non sense. Celebrate the ugly win but stop with the excuses. If the Bills play this quality of football they will be on vacation soon. Let's hope, some AFC teams competing with the Bills playoff hopes lose. Miami, Jags, Denver, Houston, and Indy... Let's hope the Bills execute better and play well down the stretch. All in all it was a huge win! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Still missing the point. The Bills ceiling is by far higher than probably every team in the AFC. I didn’t miss that point I just disagreed with another point you made in the same post 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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