leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: I think you meant to say they are/were "unrealistic." I assure you they are "real," as they exist as artistic expression of the writers, actors and producers. Did Laurel and Hardy or Seinfeld represent "real life"? No, but so what, they are funny. Did the movie "Casablanca" represent a real war time situation? Not at all, but it was good drama with great acting, a good story with plot twists, and when Elsa Young calls Sam the black piano player a "boy" you really see how race relations played out in Hollywood. The movie Midway, one of my favs, was from the 1970's, and while it is telling the basic story of how the battle unfolded, it adds sympathetic section on a Navy fighter pilot who fell in love with a Japanese girl. Compare that to how the Japanese were depicted during the war, and it is interesting to many people. No, I didn't mean unrealistic. This is what you said: The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke, is unreal. I replied in kind. I don't ascribe to the theory you've shared in the rest of this post, but I can sort of understand the philosophical approach you've taken here in a movie setting. On the other hand, I think the sympathy aspect of a fictional Japanese woman in love with a fictional Japanese girl during WW2 is to a certain extent, pandering. By the way--I used to love going to the cinema. My wife and I enjoyed the escape, the suspension of reality and getting immersed in a good story. Over the past few years, that's faded. Could be because I'm older, of course, but listening to some of the actors/directors as 'activists' has tempered all that for me. We saw "Friends of the Hollow Moon" or whatever the Deniro/DeCaprio movie was called a few weeks back. Someone set off a fire alarm with about 15-20 minutes left and to be honest, fleeing the theater was probably the highlight of the movie for me. On the other hand, we saw "The Holdovers" and liked it very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: No, I didn't mean unrealistic. This is what you said: The amount of killings in that show, and more so in Gun Smoke, is unreal. So you took my specific example of me saying Matt Dillion killing a thousand people to be "unreal" and applied it to the whole genre? If you are going to copy me, at least do it correctly. 16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I I don't ascribe to the theory you've shared in the rest of this post, but I can sort of understand the philosophical approach you've taken here in a movie setting. So you don't think the "theory"--it's not a theory--that Seinfeld can just be funny but it does not have to be realistic? Huh? Can you expand on that? 18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: On the other hand, I think the sympathy aspect of a fictional Japanese woman in love with a fictional Japanese girl during WW2 is to a certain extent, pandering. So what? Art, especially commercial art, is to an extent pandering. You have never watched a movie, tv show or documentary and enjoyed it because it suit your tastes, ideas or beliefs? If you say no, you are lying. Do you complain about how they pandered to your tastes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: By the way--I used to love going to the cinema. My wife and I enjoyed the escape, the suspension of reality and getting immersed in a good story. Over the past few years, that's faded. Could be because I'm older, of course, but listening to some of the actors/directors as 'activists' has tempered all that for me. Sounds like you don't like the new way writers create the art, and that would explain why you reacted to my reference to how minorities where written out of history in the old shows--which I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that was when you liked movies? You did like them, now you don't. Right? 24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: We saw "Friends of the Hollow Moon" or whatever the Deniro/DeCaprio movie was called a few weeks back. Someone set off a fire alarm with about 15-20 minutes left and to be honest, fleeing the theater was probably the highlight of the movie for me. On the other hand, we saw "The Holdovers" and liked it very much. Have not seen either. Didn't go to the Barbie movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you took my specific example of me saying Matt Dillion killing a thousand people to be "unreal" and applied it to the whole genre? If you are going to copy me, at least do it correctly. There is no conspiracy afoot to use the words you used to get ya. If you didn't want to use the words you used, you should have used other, better words. 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you don't think the "theory"--it's not a theory--that Seinfeld can just be funny but it does not have to be realistic? Huh? Can you expand on that? I think Seinfeld was a funny show, I still watch it. I don't think it was real. I think it was unrealistic, but only in the sense that it wasn't real people being filmed. I do believe that 4 people could live in NYC, interact with themselves and others and hilarity could ensue. 45 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So what? Art, especially commercial art, is to an extent pandering. You have never watched a movie, tv show or documentary and enjoyed it because it suit your tastes, ideas or beliefs? If you say no, you are lying. Do you complain about how they pandered to your tastes? Interestingly, you sound an awful lot like Seinfeld's Mr. Bookman, Library Cop, here. I have watched shows that pander. I have enjoyed movies and tv shows that suited my tastes, ideas and beliefs. If this fractures our relationship perhaps we were doomed from the start, like the guys in Sons of Anarchy (who are really just a couple guys who went to middle school in places like Council Bluffs, Iowa, or Sioux City Falls, SD). I don't complain because my wife won't listen. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Sounds like you don't like the new way writers create the art, and that would explain why you reacted to my reference to how minorities where written out of history in the old shows--which I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that was when you liked movies? You did like them, now you don't. Right? Have not seen either. Didn't go to the Barbie movie? I thought when you introduced 1950s-era television casting decisions, I thought it was a very odd thing to do. Like, let's say I was at a football game and complained about the officiating, and you said "Hey, Rosa Parks seemed like a real nice lady, huh?". Now that you mention it, no, I don't think minorities were "written out" of those old shows, I think minorities were never written in. I think applying the standards of today to something that took place 60 years ago will almost lead to the same place, and that is this: It wasn't like that then. Chances are pretty high that if you, Tibsy himself, were part of the decision-making team back then, you would have made similar choices and not worried a lick about anyone or anything else. I didn't watch Barbie. I had no desire to watch Barbie. I don't think I was the intended audience when Barbie was produced. I think that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Btw—as far as I can recall, I first heard the term “sodbuster” on The Rifleman and was thinking of that show when I used it earlier. I remember the bad guy having a knife sheathed at the back of his neck below his hat. He would rub his chin which would allow his hand to be close to the knife and in a split second would be able to send the knife flying towards it's target. Good old Lucas McCain was somehow wise to the trick and as the bad guy started rubbing his chin the bad guy said, "Sodbuster just don't mind his own business," but before he could release his knife Lucas decked him with left hook. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: No evidence presented. Truth likely is Putin prefers ineffective senile old dummy Biden for second term as US becomes joke. Edited December 19, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: No evidence presented. Truth likely is Putin prefers ineffective senile old dummy Biden for second term as US becomes joke. Sure he does: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, BillStime said: Sure he does: So does a photo of Biden and Xi prove he sold us out to China? Those are out there too. Reality is that It's standard practice from US administrations, President, members of the cabinet and department of State, to meet and discuss issues with foreign officials, friend or foe alike and inferring some nefarious action is reaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: So does a photo of Biden and Xi prove he sold us out to China? Those are out there too. Reality is that It's standard practice from US administrations, President, members of the cabinet and department of State, to meet and discuss issues with foreign officials, friend or foe alike and inferring some nefarious action is reaching. Your story is just not convincing - but it’s a very cute right wing talking point! But yes - keep bailing out Trump. The POS traitor praises Putin and “believes” Putin over our own intelligence. PS: You do realize the only one fn praising Xi or China is this POS: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 Conald best be careful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unforgiven Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Removing a candidate from ballots sounds ALOT more like meddling. Just like hiding the Biden allegations. Stuffing ballot boxes..etc etc etc Smells like alot of FEAR to me. Edited December 29, 2023 by Unforgiven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 He's hoping and praying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Lmao Blue anon firing up this gem again. And they wonder why everyone laughs at them Edited January 23 by Tommy Callahan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, BillStime said: He's hoping and praying... More fuel for your fire. If there is an attack I say it with 100% certainty you'll blame Trump for it. Am I right? It couldn't have anything to do with years after year of millions of unvetted border crossers under President Blunder. On 12/19/2023 at 9:02 AM, BillStime said: Your story is just not convincing - but it’s a very cute right wing talking point! But yes - keep bailing out Trump. The POS traitor praises Putin and “believes” Putin over our own intelligence. PS: You do realize the only one fn praising Xi or China is this POS: You're the one making anecdotal associations between Trump and Putin without any specific facts or rational motive and my story is just not convincing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: More fuel for your fire. If there is an attack I say it with 100% certainty you'll blame Trump for it. Am I right? It couldn't have anything to do with years after year of millions of unvetted border crossers under President Blunder. You're the one making anecdotal associations between Trump and Putin without any specific facts or rational motive and my story is just not convincing? Who is causing all the terror in the Middle East and Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Wait. For real blue anon is trying to dig this boondoggle of a narrative back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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