Firearm Deaths Are The Leading Cause Of Death Of Children In United States

[B-Man]

What is to blame for the rising number of gun deaths among children and teens?

 

If you’ve spent any time online or listening to the news in the past two weeks you’ve probably heard one factoid in particular bandied about by those in favor of gun control. Guns are now the leading cause of death among children, surpassing car accidents and cancer. 

 

First, if you hear people citing it, they’ll often claim, incorrectly, that it shows guns are a leading cause of death among children. But the headline of the letter points out the problem: “Current Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States.”

 

For whatever reason, the data looked at included teens up to age 19. In other words, some of these people were not children at all but adult teens. This is made clear in the letter itself.

 

The previous analysis, which examined data through 2016, showed that firearm-related injuries were second only to motor vehicle crashes (both traffic-related and nontraffic-related) as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents, defined as persons 1 to 19 years of age. Since 2016, that gap has narrowed, and in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group (Figure 1).

 

So anyone citing this really ought to say the results are about “children and adolescents” not just “children.” But frequently that doesn’t happen

 

I suspect when activists and politicos talk about gun deaths in the wake of an event like these they are, intentionally or not, misleading people about what is going on.

 

Most of the deaths captured in that CDC data involve older teens, mostly males, who are victims of street violence.

 

Older children and teens are much more likely than younger kids to be killed in gun-related incidents. Those ages 12 to 17 accounted for 86% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021, while those 6 to 11 accounted for 7% of the total, as did those 5 and under. Still, there were 179 gun deaths among children ages 6 to 11 and 184 among those 5 and under in 2021.

 

This is a situation where no deaths are acceptable. Still, it’s worth keeping in mind what is actually happening if we’re going to address it properly.

 

Most of these deaths involve older male teens who were probably hit by crossfire in gang-related shootings in high crime areas of major cities. Also, most of these victims were probably shot with handguns, not AR-15s.

 

The solution to bringing these crimes against children under control is the same as the solution to bringing violent crime down in general. It starts with more police who can investigate and solve these crimes followed by more prosecutions to hold those people who commit crimes against children responsible.

 

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/04/10/what-is-to-blame-for-the-rising-number-of-gun-deaths-among-children-and-teens-n542885

[Tiberius]

12 hours ago, B-Man said:

What is to blame for the rising number of gun deaths among children and teens?

 

If you’ve spent any time online or listening to the news in the past two weeks you’ve probably heard one factoid in particular bandied about by those in favor of gun control. Guns are now the leading cause of death among children, surpassing car accidents and cancer. 

 

First, if you hear people citing it, they’ll often claim, incorrectly, that it shows guns are a leading cause of death among children. But the headline of the letter points out the problem: “Current Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States.”

 

For whatever reason, the data looked at included teens up to age 19. In other words, some of these people were not children at all but adult teens. This is made clear in the letter itself.

 

The previous analysis, which examined data through 2016, showed that firearm-related injuries were second only to motor vehicle crashes (both traffic-related and nontraffic-related) as the leading cause of death among children and adolescents, defined as persons 1 to 19 years of age. Since 2016, that gap has narrowed, and in 2020, firearm-related injuries became the leading cause of death in that age group (Figure 1).

 

So anyone citing this really ought to say the results are about “children and adolescents” not just “children.” But frequently that doesn’t happen

 

I suspect when activists and politicos talk about gun deaths in the wake of an event like these they are, intentionally or not, misleading people about what is going on.

 

Most of the deaths captured in that CDC data involve older teens, mostly males, who are victims of street violence.

 

Older children and teens are much more likely than younger kids to be killed in gun-related incidents. Those ages 12 to 17 accounted for 86% of all gun deaths among children and teens in 2021, while those 6 to 11 accounted for 7% of the total, as did those 5 and under. Still, there were 179 gun deaths among children ages 6 to 11 and 184 among those 5 and under in 2021.

 

This is a situation where no deaths are acceptable. Still, it’s worth keeping in mind what is actually happening if we’re going to address it properly.

 

Most of these deaths involve older male teens who were probably hit by crossfire in gang-related shootings in high crime areas of major cities. Also, most of these victims were probably shot with handguns, not AR-15s.

 

The solution to bringing these crimes against children under control is the same as the solution to bringing violent crime down in general. It starts with more police who can investigate and solve these crimes followed by more prosecutions to hold those people who commit crimes against children responsible.

 

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/04/10/what-is-to-blame-for-the-rising-number-of-gun-deaths-among-children-and-teens-n542885

Oh, they included 19 year olds. That changes my mind! This slaughter is ok then. What a loud of garbage

 

But keep making these stupid arguments, it just helps 

[Tommy Callahan]

They don't care about the deaths and injuries when it includes gang bangers. even though the victims are usually POC.  

 

From bail reform, prison reform, DA's just not charging people. the ***** bags are out of control.

 

I have a friend that joked. 

 

"We don't have more criminals; we just have the same dozen criminals that keep being released to make more victims."

Edited April 11, 2023 by Chris farley

[Tommy Callahan]

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh, they included 19 year olds. That changes my mind! This slaughter is ok then. What a loud of garbage

 

But keep making these stupid arguments, it just helps 

the thing is all these threads are receipts. there are entire threads where the gang or illegal handgun issue is brought up and its shouted down.  almost like those victims dont count. 

 

The left won't even address the majority or even talk about it. 

 

Maybe because most is in DEM strongholds, and they won't go after the base?

 

 

 

Just maybe this has something to do with bail reform, police reform and DA's being weak on crime. 

 

 

El Salvador seemed to take care of the problem quick. 

 

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/another-idaho-hospital-announces-it-can-no-longer-deliver-babies/#:~:text=The COVID-19 pandemic%2C a,announcement posted to its website.

 

 

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

the thing is all these threads are receipts. there are entire threads where the gang or illegal handgun issue is brought up and its shouted down.  almost like those victims dont count. 

 

The left won't even address the majority or even talk about it. 

 

Maybe because most is in DEM strongholds, and they won't go after the base?

 

 

 

Just maybe this has something to do with bail reform, police reform and DA's being weak on crime. 

 

 

El Salvador seemed to take care of the problem quick. 

 

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/another-idaho-hospital-announces-it-can-no-longer-deliver-babies/#:~:text=The COVID-19 pandemic%2C a,announcement posted to its website.

 

 

 

“Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving,” Bonner General’s announcement earlier this month said. “Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult. In addition, the Idaho Legislature continues to introduce and pass bills that criminalize physicians for medical care nationally recognized as the standard of care. Consequences for Idaho physicians providing the standard of care may include civil litigation and criminal prosecution, leading to jail time or fines.”

 

So dumb. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

On 4/2/2023 at 8:35 AM, Tiberius said:

 

In Sutherland Springs, a church massacre brings tragedy without end

A 2017 church shooting left more than two dozen dead and others injured. Years later, survivors endure infertility, lifelong disability and PTSD.

Story by Silvia Foster-Frau and Holly Bailey | Photography by Lisa Krantz

 

“The kids were just laying there piled up with their faces blown off,” Holcombe testified. “I couldn’t even see [Crystal’s] beautiful face anymore. It was just a crater.”

 

 

The physical impact of the bullets and the number of lives lost were magnified by the shooter’s chosen weapon. Devin Patrick Kelley, wielding a Ruger AR-556 rifle, fired 450 military-grade bullets inside the church within minutes, all of which left the barrel at a velocity of around 3,200 feet a second.

 

The devastation was incomparable to damage from a handgun or shotgun. Doctors who treated the victims likened the wounds to something they might have seen on a battlefield.

“The high-velocity firearm injuries, when they come in, you’re missing body parts, and there’s bleeding,” said Lillian Liao, a trauma surgeon at University Hospital and UT Health in San Antonio. “You don’t see muscle. There’s just bone and skin and missing parts.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/sutherland-springs-shooting-survivors-ar-15-scars/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f003

Ban them! 

 

This is a complete crock of sh*t

 

Whoever wrote that has zero firearm knowledge. 

[LeviF]

Wow I wonder what happened in 2020 that could have pushed firearm deaths higher

[BillStime]

22 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Wow I wonder what happened in 2020 that could have pushed firearm deaths higher

 

 

 

 

For the death cult - It's never the guns.  It's 100% always something else.

 

 

[LeviF]

On 3/11/2023 at 5:51 PM, LeviF said:

Make firearm deaths disappear using this one simple trick!

 

 

Well if anyone was curious, when you run the data in an honest way, and you start sorting by *REDACTED*, you get results that look like this:

 

 

Even including suicide this dataset has less than half the firearm death rate of the US at large over the same amount of time.

 

Meanwhile this next dataset, well:

 

 

The rate here is is about 2/3rds HIGHER than the overall national rate.

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Well if anyone was curious, when you run the data in an honest way, and you start sorting by *REDACTED*, you get results that look like this:

 

 

Even including suicide this dataset has less than half the firearm death rate of the US at large over the same amount of time.

 

Meanwhile this next dataset, well:

 

 

The rate here is is about 2/3rds HIGHER than the overall national rate.

 

Love the MAGA nut jobs going out of their way to defend the indefensible - just so these insecure childish idiots can play GI Joe.

 

Who TF cares who gets slaughtered.

 

GQP: Kids getting shot in school - eh, who cares. Turn on Tucker - I need to be reminded that I'm really not a POS like everyone thinks I am...

 

 

[LeviF]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

Love the MAGA nut jobs going out of their way to defend the indefensible - just so these insecure childish idiots can play GI Joe.

 

Who TF cares who gets slaughtered.

 

GQP: Kids getting shot in school - eh, who cares. Turn on Tucker - I need to be reminded that I'm really not a POS like everyone thinks I am...

 

 

Care to take a look and give us a quick analysis? The top dataset is white non-hispanic aged 0-17, inclusive. The bottom is black of any ethnicity aged 0-17, inclusive. Causes of death for all firearm codes 2018-2021. 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Care to take a look and give us a quick analysis? The top dataset is white non-hispanic aged 0-17, inclusive. The bottom is black of any ethnicity aged 0-17, inclusive. Causes of death for all firearm codes 2018-2021. 

 

Send the links to the sources and I'll get back with you. 

[LeviF]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Send the links to the sources and I'll get back with you. 

CDC WONDER data. Underlying cause of death, single race, 2018-2021. 
 

https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10-expanded.html

[BillStime]

12 minutes ago, LeviF said:

CDC WONDER data. Underlying cause of death, single race, 2018-2021. 
 

https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10-expanded.html

 

 

Query Criteria:

Single-Year Ages:< 1 year; 1 year; 2 years; 3 years; 4 years; 5 years; 6 years; 7 years; 8 years; 9 years; 10 years; 11 years; 12 years; 13 years; 14 years; 15 years; 16 years

Group By:15 Leading Causes of Death

Show Totals:Disabled

Show Zero Values:Disabled

Show Suppressed:Disabled

Calculate Rates Per:100,000

Rate Options: Default intercensal populations for years 2001-2009 (except Infant Age Groups)

[LeviF]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

 

Query Criteria:

Single-Year Ages:< 1 year; 1 year; 2 years; 3 years; 4 years; 5 years; 6 years; 7 years; 8 years; 9 years; 10 years; 11 years; 12 years; 13 years; 14 years; 15 years; 16 years

Group By:15 Leading Causes of Death

Show Totals:Disabled

Show Zero Values:Disabled

Show Suppressed:Disabled

Calculate Rates Per:100,000

Rate Options: Default intercensal populations for years 2001-2009 (except Infant Age Groups)

 

If you want to split out firearms codes you'll have to drop the ranking and do a "group by" "cause of death" and then you can order the resulting table from most to fewest deaths, or you can switch to the ICD-10 113 cause list and select all the firearms groups manually so you eliminate salmonella and ***** from your table. The firearms splits aren't "rankable" like homicide or suicide generally are.

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

On 4/7/2023 at 4:22 PM, Tiberius said:

Guns are just so easy for anyone to get these days 

 

LEO already said that the guns they used were stolen. 

[Tommy Callahan]

59 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

 

For the death cult - It's never the guns.  It's 100% always something else.

 

 

Dude, dont tell us you donated to her go fraud or buy her trump bad swag.  

 

its funny that profile rages on trump, but copies his grifting game to a T.

 

 

[Tiberius]

I’m in Tennessee now, local news is all about guns and that mass murder of those little girls 

 

Governor Lee issued an executive order to strengthen their criminally irresponsible lack of background checks. Good! 

[Tiberius]

 

[BillStime]

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