Gene Frenkle Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 hours ago, TSOL said: Morally bankrupt. Which is why this country sucks these days Instead of gun control, let's get some more guns in the schools, to prevent people with guns from shooting up schools. Nice morals. Let's run/elect the guy who grabs women by the *****, has been accused of multiplesexual assaults and rape, and was besties with Epstein. Nice morals. Instead of helping to care for the children we force them to carry to term, let's cut entitlements because lazy welfare queens. Nice morals. In fact, let's just thump a Bible while we pack the pickup with AR-15s and Pabst Blue Ribbon on our way to the "totally not racist" All Lives Matter boat parade. That's what Jesus would do, after all. Totally moral. Those in glass houses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Because those aren't the root causes. There are literally studies on this. Here's a fun question for you: What is the number one cause of death for pregnant women? Not 800,000 a year's worth, I'll tell you that. And that's a societal problem, don't try to pull that out there like women are so traumatized by pregnancy. That's a problem of a horribly lopsided society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: Not 800,000 a year's worth, I'll tell you that. And that's a societal problem, don't try to pull that out there like women are so traumatized by pregnancy. That's a problem of a horribly lopsided society. The number one cause of death for pregnant women: homicide. 0-1. But let's give you another chance, what is the number one reason US women give for having an abortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The number one cause of death for pregnant women: homicide. 0-1. But let's give you another chance, what is the number one reason US women give for having an abortion? Im not going down your rabbit hole with you, have fun though Humans can create life and can destroy life, both have consequences 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: Im not going down your rabbit hole with you, have fun though Thank you for proving my point. Continue advocating for positions that have zero chance of creating the effects that you desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Thank you for proving my point. Continue advocating for positions that have zero chance of creating the effects that you desire. Dude, you're trying to manipulate statistics to overcomplicate the issue. The death of pregnant women? How small of a sample size do you need to analize to try to prove to yourself that you're right 700 pregnant women per year die by homicide. Seriously? That's what you're going to say "you won" over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, TSOL said: Dude, you're trying to manipulate statistics to overcomplicate the issue. The death of pregnant women? How small of a sample size do you need to analize to try to prove to yourself that you're right 700 pregnant women per year die by homicide. Seriously? That's what you're going to say "you won" over? Nah, my point is that you can't or won't identify the top cause of elective abortions in the US. As much as it would upset people on the far Left, I agree with the statement that abortions should be safe, legal, and rare. To that effect, I would support policies that actually reduced the number of abortions. To do that, you need to look to why people are actually having abortions. That's not something the forced birth crowd does, because actually preventing abortions isn't what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Nah, my point is that you can't or won't identify the top cause of elective abortions in the US. As much as it would upset people on the far Left, I agree with the statement that abortions should be safe, legal, and rare. To that effect, I would support policies that actually reduced the number of abortions. To do that, you need to look to why people are actually having abortions. That's not something the forced birth crowd does, because actually preventing abortions isn't what they want. $3500, payment plans available. Creating life is a responsibility that has consequences, whether you're 14 or 40. Consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 One last thing and I'll leave it be. From an institutional standpoint, it's about population control of minorities. But it's also a bandwagon for women's rights so hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, TSOL said: $3500, payment plans available. Creating life is a responsibility that has consequences, whether you're 14 or 40. Consequences. You are an unserious person unwilling to do an iota of work to support your arguments (which are based on falsehoods). 1 minute ago, TSOL said: One last thing and I'll leave it be. From an institutional standpoint, it's about population control of minorities. But it's also a bandwagon for women's rights so hooray! Case in point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, TSOL said: $3500, payment plans available. Creating life is a responsibility that has consequences, whether you're 14 or 40. Consequences. Why do you expect everyone else to be as responsible and capable as you claim to be? If you consider yourself to be an average human, that means that at least half of the 7-8 billion people on this planet are less intelligent/capable/responsible than you. You want to put your impose your moral truths on the rest of us. Are you going to pay for these unwanted children or are you just looking to be mad when people don't live up to your standards? Will their tragic upbringings help you sleep better at night? Just to be clear, you're in favor of entitlements, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: You are an unserious person unwilling to do an iota of work to support your arguments (which are based on falsehoods). Case in point. Sad how darkness weaves it's way into our very souls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, TSOL said: Sad how darkness weaves it's way into our very souls Sad how you are intent on showing us what Dunning-Krueger looks like in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Sad how you are intent on showing us what Dunning-Krueger looks like in real life. Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, TSOL said: Sad how darkness weaves it's way into our very souls Backwoods wisdom at its best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Backwoods wisdom at its best! Creating life is a big deal man. If you're going to create life and then shortly after request to terminate it there needs to be some serious consequences to that. It can't be like going through the McDonald's drive through for a couple of mcdoubles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, TSOL said: Creating life is a big deal man. If you're going to create life and then shortly after request to terminate it there needs to be some serious consequences to that. It can't be like going through the McDonald's drive through for a couple of mcdoubles Is it though? Says who? There are plenty of poors in the world. Are you willing to pay for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 There were 300 million people in the world when the Bible was written. Now there are 8 billion. That's a 2666% increase in the number of humans. In your opinion, is life more or less valuable now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, TSOL said: Creating life is a big deal man. If you're going to create life and then shortly after request to terminate it there needs to be some serious consequences to that. It can't be like going through the McDonald's drive through for a couple of mcdoubles The thing that is so frustrating about these conversations is that to forced birth crowd just resorts to strawmen arguments as opposed to actually advocating for things that would fix the problem they proclaim to care about. It's how you know they don't really care and stopping abortions isn't really the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The thing that is so frustrating about these conversations is that to forced birth crowd just resorts to strawmen arguments as opposed to actually advocating for things that would fix the problem they proclaim to care about. It's how you know they don't really care and stopping abortions isn't really the goal. Every time I bring up entitlements I get ghosted. It's hilariously hypothetical to take both an anti-abortion and anti-entitlement position, yet here we are. Ladies and gentlemen, the Republican Party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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