SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, BillStime said: So, now it's ok for the state to raise your kids? To out children? This is nothing more than a form of McCarthyism in our schools that will lead to abuse and bullying. I thought the cult told us parents should raise their children; not the state? Flip flop flip flop flip flop flop flop flip flop flip flop flop flop Still not sure where you think this is going. ‘Out your children’? So is it abuse or bullying…it’s something you BELIEVE will lead to abuse and bullying? Again, I’m more than willing to have a grown up discussion here but I’m honestly not following you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Still not sure where you think this is going. ‘Out your children’? So is it abuse or bullying…it’s something you BELIEVE will lead to abuse and bullying? Again, I’m more than willing to have a grown up discussion here but I’m honestly not following you. Seriously dude. You will never ever have an adult conversation with Billy Boy. 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Still not sure where you think this is going. ‘Out your children’? So is it abuse or bullying…it’s something you BELIEVE will lead to abuse and bullying? Again, I’m more than willing to have a grown up discussion here but I’m honestly not following you. Do you want the school to speculate that your child is gay or should the child come to terms with their sexuality on their terms and come out when it is right for them? 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Seriously dude. You will never ever have an adult conversation with Billy Boy. 🤦🏻♂️ So, you didn't ask your gay friends about the Don't Say Gay laws sweeping communist red states? Why not? Afraid to have an adult conversation with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 It is unfortunate that Billstime feels the need to not offer any actual solutions, just complain about problems. His complaint about the don't say gay bill is telling because only two options exist- he believes that schools should be discussing sex with 1st graders because the bill only applies to primary schools or just as bad he is so gullible he is leading the charge against something he has never seen or read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, BillStime said: Do you want the school to speculate that your child is gay or should the child come to terms with their sexuality on their terms and come out when it is right for them? How about we leave that up to the people that raised them and show them unconditional love. No I’ve not yet talked to my gay friends. Have you talked to parents to see who they’d rather have that conversation with their children? Why are you so adamant about this conversation happening with a stranger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Did the state or your parents (or guardians) raise you? I’ll tell you what- I’ll answer your question if you answer mine first, because you answered my question with a question...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: How about we leave that up to the people that raised them and show them unconditional love. No I’ve not yet talked to my gay friends. Have you talked to parents to see who they’d rather have that conversation with their children? Why are you so adamant about this conversation happening with a stranger? Pay attention 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’ll tell you what- I’ll answer your question if you answer mine first, because you answered my question with a question...😉 Parents... but remember, I'm not getting tripped up over the 45+ year old boogeyman - aka CRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, BillStime said: Pay attention Parents... but remember, I'm not getting tripped up over the 45+ year old boogeyman - aka CRT. Yes that amendment is stupid and potentially dangerous. Now on to your boogeyman comment. Why are you so for CRT. What are you looking for it to accomplish in the growth of children? I’m looking for a serious dialog regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Yes that amendment is stupid and potentially dangerous. Now on to your boogeyman comment. Why are you so for CRT. What are you looking for it to accomplish in the growth of children? I’m looking for a serious dialog regarding this. Seriously dude, you want to have a serious conversation with BillSy…quoting…you! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Yes that amendment is stupid and potentially dangerous. Now on to your boogeyman comment. Why are you so for CRT. What are you looking for it to accomplish in the growth of children? I’m looking for a serious dialog regarding this. I'm not for or against CRT as it is not taught in schools - it is faux outrage meant to divide; not bring us together. Who are we prioritizing when it comes to CRT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, BillStime said: I'm not for or against CRT as it is not taught in schools - it is faux outrage meant to divide; not bring us together. Who are we prioritizing when it comes to CRT? The bigger question is who is it dividing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Seriously dude, you want to have a serious conversation with BillSy…quoting…you! 😉 I knew that was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BillStime said: 3 hours ago, BillStime said: I'm not for or against CRT as it is not taught in schools - it is faux outrage meant to divide; not bring us together. Who are we prioritizing when it comes to CRT? Who are prioritizing? Impressionable children who often look up to authority figure such as their teachers for guidance that will help them succeed in the real world. Question. What do you think is the positive end result of teaching CRT to children? You Edited February 21, 2022 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Teaching a class aimed at convincing black kids that white people are oppressing them sure sounds inclusive to me. What could possibly go wrong? 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Who are prioritizing? Impressionable children who often look up to authority figure such as their teachers for guidance that will help them succeed in the real world. Question. What do you think is the positive end result of teaching CRT to children? You And what's stopping those students from looking up to teachers? CRT is not being taught in schools... history is... and if it contains context so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: And what's stopping those students from looking up to teachers? CRT is not being taught in schools... history is... and if it contains context so be it. Nothing. Why we need to be very mindful of what they are telling/teaching. That is the topic of this thread no? Correct CRT is not history. History has and always will be taught in school. CRT can be interpreted in a very decisive manner that can drive a huge wedge between the races when we need the exact opposite. When I was taught about slavery and civil rights 50 or so years ago it gave me empathy for the plight of black people. Now we, for whatever reason, have gotten away from that. Today it just seems that things are being taught in an accusatory manner that does not create empathy. It creates division and poor self worth. It’s really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: When I was taught about slavery and civil rights 50 or so years ago it gave me empathy for the plight of black people. Now we, for whatever reason, have gotten away from that. Today it just seems that things are being taught in an accusatory manner that does not create empathy. It creates division and poor self worth. It’s really weird. For whatever reason... (great place to insert proof) Today it just seems... (great place to insert proof) #FollowtheMoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: For whatever reason... (great place to insert proof) Today it just seems... (great place to insert proof) #FollowtheMoney I’ll link to this piece again to make my point here. Yes these are private schools but it’s likely safe to say many public school teachers are focusing on DIE in a manner that is bad for self worth. Putting people in separate boxes is a very weird way to go about creating inclusion. https://goodwordnews.com/inside-the-woke-indoctrination-machine/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Eliminate tenure. Every single teacher goes on contract. Eliminate No Child Left Behind. Let kids learn at their own pace. National database of teacher misconduct for the pedophiles and the teachers that get fired for misconduct (like booze parties). National database of expelled children who were expelled for violence. Charge the parents/guardians for truancy. Base funding on YOY improvement in test scores, not annual scores. Base teacher bonuses on YOY improvement in scores. Bring back Phys. Ed. Real phys.ed. with sweating. Bring back Home Economics. Teach a personal finance course every year in high school. Pay students for good grades - not in cash, but an accruing scholarship to trade school, community college or college. Make that worth their while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: Eliminate tenure. Every single teacher goes on contract. Eliminate No Child Left Behind. Let kids learn at their own pace. National database of teacher misconduct for the pedophiles and the teachers that get fired for misconduct (like booze parties). National database of expelled children who were expelled for violence. Charge the parents/guardians for truancy. Base funding on YOY improvement in test scores, not annual scores. Base teacher bonuses on YOY improvement in scores. Bring back Phys. Ed. Real phys.ed. with sweating. Bring back Home Economics. Teach a personal finance course every year in high school. Pay students for good grades - not in cash, but an accruing scholarship to trade school, community college or college. Make that worth their while. Good stuff. I especially like that last one. The key there is to get parents to realize how much $$ they could save if they didn't not have to fund 100% of their child's college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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