Lefties are mentally disturbed and must be stopped.

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

So, in writing a high school social studies textbook with a chapter on Child Trafficking in the Modern World - a chapter that mentions the evils of that practice 100 or more times - would it be appropriate to include the lines I just suggested: "some trafficked children gained valuable job skills through their forced labor, and went on to productive careers working in meat packing plants or in the adult entertainment industry."

 

 

The fact that some children in that horrible situation might have learned something that they used for their personal benefit in the lives is undeniable.

 

Just as they learn things in ANY situation.

 

But it's clear that you are stuck.

 

You want everyone to acknowledge your spin when it is NOT the point.  That's fine.

 

I will go with the authors.

 

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized ‘without context’

By Amber Jo Cooper

FTA:

Critics claimed page six, which stated instruction would include “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” was “inaccurate.”

 

It sparked Vice President Kamala Harris to announce she is speaking in Jacksonville on Friday.

 

However, Dr. William Allen and Dr. Frances Presley Rice, who created the standards, said the “intent” of this particular benchmark clarification is to “show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted.”

 

The two are members of Florida’s African American History Standards workgroup.

 

The creators said it is “disappointing,” but “nevertheless unsurprising, that critics would reduce months of work to create Florida’s first ever stand-alone strand of African American History Standards to a few isolated expressions without context.”

“The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted,” the creators said. “This is factual and well documented.”

 

“Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history,” the joint statement said. “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.”

 

https://flvoicenews.com/creators-of-african-american-school-standards-say-guidelines-criticized-without-context/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[John from Riverside]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I didn't miss it.

 

I am simply pointing out that the course  (like every other course in America, condemns slavery as evil,

 

You know what, I'll go to the other thread for you.

 

 

NBC reports that Kamala Harris intends to visit Florida today to criticize its new school curriculum:

 

In remarks Thursday, Harris blasted efforts in some states to ban books and “push forward revisionist history.”

 

“Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery,” she said at a convention for the traditionally Black sorority Delta Sigma Theta Inc. “They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it.”

 

This is a brazen lie. It’s an astonishing lie. It’s an evil lie. It is so untrue — so deliberately and cynically misleading — that, in a sensible political culture, Harris would be obligated to issue an apology. Instead, NBC confirms that she will repeat the lie today during a speech in Jacksonville.

 

So, below, I have copied and pasted every single reference to slavery, slaves, abolitionism, civil rights, and African Americans that is in the document

 

Here’s the list. It’s 191 items strong. It contains the word “slave” 96 times, “slaves” 23 times, and “slavery” 45 times. I’ve pulled each line out in the order in which they appear, which is largely chronological. It starts with “the earliest slaves” and ends with “the integration of the University of Florida”:

 

( I won't paste the whole 191 points, but here is the one you are stuck on)

 

• Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

 

That's it.

 

That's the whole thing.  No slavery is good. 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-brazenly-lying-about-floridas-slavery-curriculum/

 

 

A group of predominantly African American educators created an extensive and detailed curriculum for African American history that includes dozens of references to the horrors of slavery, the inhumanity of the slave trade, and abolition efforts

 

Dishonest partisans, their media allies, and the VP are intentionally misleading people about the meaning and context of that one sentence, and thereby smearing those educators, to score political points against one tangentially related politician they don’t like.

 

 

 

 

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Well, I did say "adults"

 

but it's your right to ignore other opinions.

 

It says more about you than "powerline"

 

 

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Even whenever I read that bullet point over 10 times I still can’t find a way for it to come out as a positive
 

When you take it as a whole, what Florida is doing with their banning of CERT and then a new curriculum that talks about how there was some good things that happened from slavery

 

You’re trying to hard man it’s just a bad look

[B-Man]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Even whenever I read that bullet point over 10 times I still can’t find a way for it to come out as a positive
 

When you take it as a whole, what Florida is doing with their banning of CERT and then a new curriculum that talks about how there was some good things that happened from slavery

 

 

Read the response above yours.

 

and see if you can still say you can't find a way.

 

 

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[Joe Ferguson forever]

22 minutes ago, B-Man said:

“Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history,” the joint statement said. “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.”

This is absolute MAGA bs doublespeak...

[B-Man]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

This is absolute MAGA bs doublespeak...

 

 

You are a buffoon.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

30 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

The fact that some children in that horrible situation might have learned something that they used for their personal benefit in the lives is undeniable.

 

Just as they learn things in ANY situation.

 

But it's clear that you are stuck.

 

You want everyone to acknowledge your spin when it is NOT the point.  That's fine.

 

I will go with the authors.

 

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized ‘without context’

By Amber Jo Cooper

FTA:

Critics claimed page six, which stated instruction would include “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,” was “inaccurate.”

 

It sparked Vice President Kamala Harris to announce she is speaking in Jacksonville on Friday.

 

However, Dr. William Allen and Dr. Frances Presley Rice, who created the standards, said the “intent” of this particular benchmark clarification is to “show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted.”

 

The two are members of Florida’s African American History Standards workgroup.

 

The creators said it is “disappointing,” but “nevertheless unsurprising, that critics would reduce months of work to create Florida’s first ever stand-alone strand of African American History Standards to a few isolated expressions without context.”

“The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefitted,” the creators said. “This is factual and well documented.”

 

“Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage and resiliency during a difficult time in American history,” the joint statement said. “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.”

 

https://flvoicenews.com/creators-of-african-american-school-standards-say-guidelines-criticized-without-context/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Can't find anything on these 2 but I think it's fair to assume they side with Desantis since they were named to the committee.  Some context was added in this piece however.  There is clearly a bigger culture/race war agenda here than you care to admit.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-florida-standards-teach-black-people-benefited-slavery-taught-usef-rcna95418

 

In January, DeSantis’ administration blocked a new Advanced Placement course on African American studies from being taught in high schools, saying it violates state law and was historically inaccurate. The state pointing to six areas of concern and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.

That same month, DeSantis and Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr. discussed the issue at a news conference. They said that the course was a Trojan horse for “indoctrinating” students with a left-wing ideology under the guise of teaching about the Black experience and African American history.

Edited July 24, 2023 by redtail hawk

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

This is absolute MAGA bs doublespeak...

You have a phrase that you don’t mind using for people like this. It’s two words. Begins with U, ends with m. Go for it. You know you want to. It’s just an opinion after all. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

You have a phrase that you don’t mind using for people like this. It’s two words. Begins with U, ends with m. Go for it. You know you want to. It’s just an opinion after all. 

don't know anything about these people except that they're black, wrote ridiculous curriculum and appear to be aligned with Desantis.  It's not like they took bribes from billionaires...

Edited July 24, 2023 by redtail hawk

[JDHillFan]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

don't know anything about these people except that they're black, wrote ridiculous curriculum and appear to be aligned with Desantis.  It's not like they took bribes from billionaires...

Nobody is just part racist. Maybe someone of color will label them with a slur you have shown yourself comfortable with and you can cheer that person on. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, JDHillFan said:

Nobody is just part racist. Maybe someone of color will label them with a slur you have shown yourself comfortable with and you can cheer that person on. 

many people are part racist.  It's how ethnic "cleansing" occurs:  intense hate for a particular ethnic group.  And sometimes, people hate themselves...

[JDHillFan]

8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

many people are part racist.  It's how ethnic "cleansing" occurs:  intense hate for a particular ethnic group.  And sometimes, people hate themselves...

Part racist….smh. 
 

“Rashida Tlaib is only part racist, you know. But that Clarence Thomas, now there’s a jackass”  - racisthawk 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, JDHillFan said:

Part racist….smh. 
 

“Rashida Tlaib is only part racist, you know. But that Clarence Thomas, now there’s a jackass”  - racisthawk 

the KKK hates Jews, Catholics and Blacks.  I'm not sure they have much hate for Norwegians or Canadians.

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

 

 

 

Thank you for validating the thread title.

 

 

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[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

Thank you for validating the thread title.

 

 

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Is it the bowtie?  

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

 

 

And again.

[JDHillFan]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

the KKK hates Jews, Catholics and Blacks.  I'm not sure they have much hate for Norwegians or Canadians.

The Klan is only part racist. This is the sort of content that can only be gotten from a TBD/PPP scoldy Karen. You have outdone yourself with this one. 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

The Klan is only part racist. This is the sort of content that can only be gotten from a TBD/PPP scoldy Karen. You have outdone yourself with this one. 

 

 

lighten up Francis...or is it Francine.  I think it is fair to say that the KKK aren't equal opportunity racists.

Edited July 24, 2023 by redtail hawk

[B-Man]

 

 

Back to the thread.

 

 

Precision in language is especially important in things like science and law. And the current assault on our language is particularly troubling and acute in both these areas.

 

What you can say and how you can say things are being circumscribed, and the very meaning of terms we all used to understand are being altered beyond recognition. Suspect descriptions are being censored (in many cases you can’t describe the race of a fleeing suspect), terms such as male and female are now unacceptable, and the very meaning of certain words with clear definitions in law are being redefined into uselessness.

 

 

Pregnant boyfriend? That is nonsensical. It makes as much sense as describing the 2020 George Floyd riots as “mostly peaceful” as people get beaten and buildings burn down.

 

And that is the point, of course.

 

What has made this an effective tactic of the Left is that they can count on the average person to dip into their store of knowledge and latch onto a word with a traditional meaning such as “peaceful,” and expect that you will think their use of the term means what their use means. At worst, they leave you confused, and at best you come to accept their version of reality. And if you resist, they have the means to punish you.

 

A revaluation of all values, a new meaning for all words, with the benefit of the values attached to the old words still attached to the now empty vessel, at least for a while.

 

Many of us have not bought into this revaluation and redefinition, but before you scoff: it’s pretty clear that the MSM and the people who define and build much of the cultural infrastructure do. Hence a media outlet uses the term “pregnant boyfriend.” They keep repeating this and a lot of people blandly accept it.

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/07/24/stop-the-insanity-please-n566661

[JDHillFan]

26 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

lighten up Francis...or is it Francine.  I think it is fair to say that the KKK aren't equal opportunity racists.

We can revisit the next time you are demanding people call out racists. Should be sometime mid-afternoon. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

We can revisit the next time you are demanding people call out racists. Should be sometime mid-afternoon. 

So what you're saying is that there aren't different degrees of racists ...So Catholics who were taught decades ago  to not trust or like Jews for what happened 2000 years ago are equal to neo nazis...neither stance is good but one is much worse than the other.  you seem to see things in black and white while I almost always see them in shades of gray.

Edited July 24, 2023 by redtail hawk