Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Racism does exist. But we aren't a racist country. There is a difference. What is the tipping point that turns a country racist? Or is your argument that a country cannot by itself be racist? I'd be interesting in hearing what the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: For those that actually watched this was genuinely a great part of the whole thing. I personally clapped too. About time. 20 minutes ago, BillStime said: He did say this though: What was the deal with the masks? Were they planning to go out and rob a bank after the speech? A room full of completely vaccinated people that can't get sick. All for show I guess and more patronizing virtue signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Melon said: Your mother must be doing fantastic then. Glad to hear. You missed the most competent speech by a president in a few years. I wish Obama would just do everyone’s speeches forever. The first time I heard him doing one of these rebuttals it was obvious he was talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melon said: What is the tipping point that turns a country racist? Or is your argument that a country cannot by itself be racist? I'd be interesting in hearing what the difference is. I think that question is best asked of those that accuse us of being a racist country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: What was the deal with the masks? Were they planning to go out and rob a bank after the speech? A room full of completely vaccinated people that can't get sick. All for show I guess and more patronizing virtue signalling. Just to trigger people like you 🤗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Melon said: What is the tipping point that turns a country racist? Or is your argument that a country cannot by itself be racist? I'd be interesting in hearing what the difference is. Has America been a racist country? Yes. But the world was racist. America was built with the idea to end it. We went from slavery to having only under 10k hate crimes last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Has America been a racist country? Yes. But the world was racist. America was built with the idea to end it. We went from slavery to having only under 10k hate crimes last year. So we became not racist last year? Confused at what the "difference" you're referring to is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Has America been a racist country? Yes. But the world was racist. America was built with the idea to end it. We went from slavery to having only under 10k hate crimes last year. I'll add. It is difficult when you have Biden passing the Crime and Drug Bills in the late 80's and early 90's which had such a terrible effect on minority communities by putting them in prison at an overwhelmingly higher rate than white people. We still feel the effects of his awful policy to this day. But it's ok we elected the guy who created all the problems to now solve all the problems I guess. Just now, Melon said: So we became not racist last year? Confused at what the "difference" you're referring to is. You're not much of a thinker are you? Over the history of our country we've gone from slavery to having so few hate crimes. Again, racism exists but it's rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: racism exists but it's rare. Agree to disagree Go Bills Edited April 29, 2021 by Melon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Melon said: Agree to disagree Go Bills You're an #######, aren't you? You can disagree but the FBI monitors the hate crimes in this country. It is ok that it is rare. The problem is that the media and the democratic party need it to exist to divide people in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: I'll add. It is difficult when you have Biden passing the Crime and Drug Bills in the late 80's and early 90's which had such a terrible effect on minority communities by putting them in prison at an overwhelmingly higher rate than white people. We still feel the effects of his awful policy to this day. Pretty good argument for this being a racist country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Melon said: Pretty good argument for this being a racist country Well we've realized how awful those policies were and have worked to end them. A racist country would have kept the policies in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: A racist country would have kept the policies in place. We still feel the effects today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Melon said: We still feel the effects today. sure, but that doesn't mean we're racist as a country. If you're actively making efforts to make everyone have equal opportunities you're not racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: sure, but that doesn't mean we're racist as a country. If you're actively making efforts to make everyone have equal opportunities you're not racist. You don't think one can publicly support a policy but in private be a racist? I'd disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Melon said: You don't think one can publicly support a policy but in private be a racist? I'd disagree with that. So publily they're supporting policy that helps minorites but at home they're racist. So in the end minorities are treated equally but some ass is sitting at home pouting about it but doesn't actually hurt minorities? That's quite an argument. Not exactly sure what to do with that. It's like a fantasy land for someone who is desperate for racism to exist. That's part of the problem. People seem to want it to exist more than it actually exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So publily they're supporting policy that helps minorites but at home they're racist. So in the end minorities are treated equally but some ass is sitting at home pouting about it but doesn't actually hurt minorities? This is an oversimplification. Every racist is not sitting at home pouting about it. Racists have been actively involved in anti-American and anti-black groups such as the KKK, Proud Boys, etc. They signed bills supporting equal rights, then put on their hoods and lynched at night. How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? Edited April 29, 2021 by Melon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Melon said: This is an oversimplification. Every racist is not sitting at home pouting about it. Racists have been actively involved in anti-American and anti-black groups such as the KKK, Proud Boys, etc. They signed bills supporting equal rights, then put on their hoods and lynched at night. How can minorities (please spell it correctly if you're going to present an argument about them) be treated equally if some of those in power have implicit bias against them? JFC I misspelled it once and correctly the other time...it happens. Racists exist. But they have no power and are in the extreme minority. The facts are that hate crimes against have steadily gone down for decades. There were a few years where the spiked but they went back down again last year. If we were such a racist country those numbers would be rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melon Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, aristocrat said: If we were such a racist country those numbers would be rising. They are according to the FBI Can you provide the numbers from 2020? I can't find them on the FBI website, but you claim they went down last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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