CBennett Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Thats his natural spot and a spot IMO he can excel at..you saw he simply does not have the FOOT SPEED to keep up with elite speed pass rushers..doesnt mean with a injury bug or in a pinch he cant fill in..it DOES mean he can be a VERY good G and he will never be a VG Tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 So Daboll will NOT be dialing up any jet sweeps to Cody Ford? *****. I knew I shouldn't have taken that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, CBennett said: Thats his natural spot and a spot IMO he can excel at..you saw he simply does not have the FOOT SPEED to keep up with elite speed pass rushers..doesnt mean with a injury bug or in a pinch he cant fill in..it DOES mean he can be a VERY good G and he will never be a VG Tackle. Everybody says this but he had excellent quick feet at Oklahoma Read any scouting report his feet are amazing for a big man It takes time to develop. Its called thinking over playing and sloppy technique But saying he has slow feet is not correct. He was a better tackle than guard at Oklahoma... It's hard to play tackle in the NFL Edited October 8, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Joe B gotta be basking in the wake of own stank because he has not let go the "Cody Ford to guard" argument since before the kid was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: All those guys you listed were guard prospects tho. And had great film there I don't think Ford is in that realm as a guard. His Oklahoma play at guard certainly doesn't say so. Hence why most scouts said Guard should be a fallback if he couldn't hang at tackle. Because he can bully defensive ends, and win as a traditional mauling right tackle He doesn't have that ability against world class defensive tackles. He's been getting pushed back a bit in the pass game His anchor needs to improve That’s fair and I don’t know enough OLine technique to actually offer a deeper analysis, but in the Rams game he seemed to have done as well as reasonably expected against Donald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I'm curious to see what Feliciano's presence does for the OL. Right guard is now the only reason question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, appoo said: That’s fair and I don’t know enough OLine technique to actually offer a deeper analysis, but in the Rams game he seemed to have done as well as reasonably expected against Donald Is Cody Ford a better guard than tackle today? Yes, but that's because Guard is vastly easier to play in the NFL In the pass game and run game you get a lot of double teams and helping situations Tackles are left one-on-one the majority of time. So there's a bigger steeper learning curve If he could show the ability to pull like he did in college, and become a Mauler in the running game, that would be huge But just getting a guy who is solid across the board at guard is pretty easy to find in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 What this also means is that while I would have liked to see the Bills use their first rounder on an EDGE, OT might be a bigger need as I assume Daryl Williams will price himself out Buffalo’s pandemic salary cap. Bates is getting some PT I noticed and I’m wondering if that’s in prep for him competing for the RG spot next season so they won’t have to pay Brian winters, who’s also entering FA at 29, and should clear $3M he’s getting paid now as a starter on a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, appoo said: What this also means is that while I would have liked to see the Bills use their first rounder on an EDGE, OT might be a bigger need as I assume Daryl Williams will price himself out Buffalo’s pandemic salary cap. Bates is getting some PT I noticed and I’m wondering if that’s in prep for him competing for the RG spot next season so they won’t have to pay Brian winters, who’s also entering FA at 29, and should clear $3M he’s getting paid now as a starter on a good team. I think there's zero chance they re-sign Winters. And Bates has gotten just 1 snap in 3 of the 4 games and 5 snaps in the Miami game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I think there's zero chance they re-sign Winters. And Bates has gotten just 1 snap in 3 of the 4 games and 5 snaps in the Miami game. Oops! I thought I saw him more against LV. at least he got to spike the ball on a Josh Allen TD against the Jets. Edited October 8, 2020 by appoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, appoo said: Oops! I thought I saw him more against LV. at least he got to spike the ball on a Josh Allen TD against the Jets. Yeah. They've been bringing him in as an extra OL for goal-line plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 4:15 PM, Buffalo716 said: Everybody says this but he had excellent quick feet at Oklahoma Read any scouting report his feet are amazing for a big man It takes time to develop. Its called thinking over playing and sloppy technique But saying he has slow feet is not correct. He was a better tackle than guard at Oklahoma... It's hard to play tackle in the NFL He sucked Vs speed rushers at T HERE with the Bills....he simply couldnt get to them. Thats why he is at G. we can agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, CBennett said: He sucked Vs speed rushers at T HERE with the Bills....he simply couldnt get to them. Thats why he is at G. we can agree to disagree. Most rookie tackles struggle not just ford. Dawkins struggled mightily with speed rushers as a rookie. You act like he's a 7 year vet It's not a foot quickness thing. It's a technique thing which is coachable He hasn't been that great at guard either. His power that he used versus defensive ends is completely negated versus stronger tackles You can find good guard play anywhere. It takes years to develop offensive tackles At least he was able to bully defensive ends He's at guard because Darryl Williams is playing well. If he wasn't here ford would still be taking reps at tackle It's not because he's been playing like an All-Pro at guard Edited October 9, 2020 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBennett Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 5:00 PM, Buffalo716 said: Most rookie tackles struggle not just ford. Dawkins struggled mightily with speed rushers as a rookie. You act like he's a 7 year vet It's not a foot quickness thing. It's a technique thing which is coachable He hasn't been that great at guard either. His power that he used versus defensive ends is completely negated versus stronger tackles You can find good guard play anywhere. It takes years to develop offensive tackles At least he was able to bully defensive ends He's at guard because Darryl Williams is playing well. If he wasn't here ford would still be taking reps at tackle It's not because he's been playing like an All-Pro at guard I know this isnt really a article about Ford specifically but it goes to the position he sucked at(RT) that they kept trying to put him in....since they got him out of there because of his slow feet and lack of being able to block speed rushers..and got this guy IN there this is what happens when Ford ISNT your RT and SOMEONE COMPETENT is... PFF: RT - Daryl Williams, Buffalo Bills … Buffalo's Daryl Williams is back to near his best play this season. Williams has a PFF grade of at least 77.0 as both a pass blocker and a run blocker, and that elevates him over the other right tackles who are clustered around with similar overall grades.( Bills Today | These two Bills received midseason All-Pro mentions Nov 12, 2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CBennett said: I know this isnt really a article about Ford specifically but it goes to the position he sucked at(RT) that they kept trying to put him in....since they got him out of there because of his slow feet and lack of being able to block speed rushers..and got this guy IN there this is what happens when Ford ISNT your RT and SOMEONE COMPETENT is... PFF: RT - Daryl Williams, Buffalo Bills … Buffalo's Daryl Williams is back to near his best play this season. Williams has a PFF grade of at least 77.0 as both a pass blocker and a run blocker, and that elevates him over the other right tackles who are clustered around with similar overall grades.( Bills Today | These two Bills received midseason All-Pro mentions Nov 12, 2020) Daryl Williams is playing well But he even took a few years to develop into the player he is And I think it's funny when people think Cody Ford has slow feet. He has amazingly quick feet, read any scouting report And then watch his feet when he plays, he has very good feet What he does do like most young players, is think instead of play Which slows you down, couple that with his not great technique, and he looks slower than he his But he's an amazing athlete, who moves very well. He has a technique problem Edited November 12, 2020 by Buffalo716 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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