Sound_n_Fury Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050420/4032142.asp West Texas A&M football coach Ronnie Jones resigned Tuesday after a university investigation found he was operating a marketing business from his school office. Athletics Director Ed Harris said in a statement that Jones used state and school resources for personal gain, "taking advantage of West Texas A&M property, facilities, funds, information technology resources, equipment, supplies, services and employee time." No one answered Tuesday evening at an Amarillo telephone number for Jones, a former Buffalo Bills special teams coach who was suspended with pay last week. Harris said Jones, who compiled a 5-27 record in three seasons with the Division II school, abused his authority, exerting undue influence on student-athletes and employees by soliciting memberships in his marketing venture. Jones was a Bills assistant in 2000 under head coach Wade Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Oh boy, at 5-27, they must really hate to lose Ronnie. What will West Texas A&M do now??? Ronnie was probably a spammer, too, marketing his whatever by bulk email. I wonder if Gregg-o bought any of what Ronnie was selling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050420/4032142.asp West Texas A&M football coach Ronnie Jones resigned Tuesday after a university investigation found he was operating a marketing business from his school office. Athletics Director Ed Harris said in a statement that Jones used state and school resources for personal gain, "taking advantage of West Texas A&M property, facilities, funds, information technology resources, equipment, supplies, services and employee time." No one answered Tuesday evening at an Amarillo telephone number for Jones, a former Buffalo Bills special teams coach who was suspended with pay last week. Harris said Jones, who compiled a 5-27 record in three seasons with the Division II school, abused his authority, exerting undue influence on student-athletes and employees by soliciting memberships in his marketing venture. Jones was a Bills assistant in 2000 under head coach Wade Phillips. 310153[/snapback] Hard to imagine this guy was ever part of an NFL franchise! What were we thinking? What was Wade thinking??? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCBillsFan Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 My question is why resign when you're "suspended WITH pay"? Hell, if I knew I was going I'd milk every dime until they actually fired me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Shining example of employment through the Good Ol' Boys Network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Kind of makes you wonder a bit why Wade was so adamant in his refusal to fire Ronnie, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I don't know what the demands are like coaching college, particularly Div II, but in the NFL, I get the impression that 80-100 hour work weeks are about norm. When would he have time for any other endeavor? Then again being 5-27, maybe he was only putting in 40, which left him plenty of time for 'more important' things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Oh boy, at 5-27, they must really hate to lose Ronnie. What will West Texas A&M do now??? Ronnie was probably a spammer, too, marketing his whatever by bulk email. I wonder if Gregg-o bought any of what Ronnie was selling... 310163[/snapback] Having had to live in the butt hole of the universe...a.k.a. Texas, for 4 years, I believe that the 5-27 record was what did him in, and the marketing thing was just the phony reason they went with! If he was 27-5 he could have sold crack outside of W's back door and everything would have been A-OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Kind of makes you wonder a bit why Wade was so adamant in his refusal to fire Ronnie, doesn't it? 310200[/snapback] There is no confusion at all. Ronnie was an old buddy and in the good old boys network that is what matters. It is amusing to see all the doctrinair rants against affirmative action efforts as applied to minority coaches as though merit were the only thing that has an impact on NFL hiring decisions. The facts seem to be that routinely NFL teams refused to hire coaches who could do better than other coaches simply because of their race. This seems to be a fact due to the historic wide disparity between the percentage of African-American coaches hired (particularly HCs) and the pool of available talent. Fortunately, these numbers slowly seem to be changing, but unfortunately it has taken an affirmative action by the NFL to make sure that the pipeline of qualified candidates is kept filled and that the bad tendencies of non-merit hiring which seem inherent in the good ol boy network are beaten back and coaches most capable of winning are hired. The Ronnie Jones record seems to be one more example of the failings of the good ol boy network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Why would they have given him a 4th year anyway? I would have fired him at the end of last season with that record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hard to imagine this guy was ever part of an NFL franchise! What were we thinking? What was Wade thinking??? PTR 310164[/snapback] This is the first time that I've ever seen the words "Wade" and "thinking" together in the same post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 There is no confusion at all. Ronnie was an old buddy and in the good old boys network that is what matters. It is amusing to see all the doctrinair rants against affirmative action efforts as applied to minority coaches as though merit were the only thing that has an impact on NFL hiring decisions. The facts seem to be that routinely NFL teams refused to hire coaches who could do better than other coaches simply because of their race. This seems to be a fact due to the historic wide disparity between the percentage of African-American coaches hired (particularly HCs) and the pool of available talent. Fortunately, these numbers slowly seem to be changing, but unfortunately it has taken an affirmative action by the NFL to make sure that the pipeline of qualified candidates is kept filled and that the bad tendencies of non-merit hiring which seem inherent in the good ol boy network are beaten back and coaches most capable of winning are hired. The Ronnie Jones record seems to be one more example of the failings of the good ol boy network. 310240[/snapback] I was only suggesting, almost entirely tongue-in-cheek (as most of you should know is my wont), that Wade might have been one of Ronnie's customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Having had to live in the butt hole of the universe...a.k.a. Texas, for 4 years, I believe that the 5-27 record was what did him in, and the marketing thing was just the phony reason they went with!If he was 27-5 he could have sold crack outside of W's back door and everything would have been A-OK! 310229[/snapback] DING DING DING We have a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 There is no confusion at all. Ronnie was an old buddy and in the good old boys network that is what matters. It is amusing to see all the doctrinair rants against affirmative action efforts as applied to minority coaches as though merit were the only thing that has an impact on NFL hiring decisions. 310240[/snapback] I can see attacking Wade for hiring Ronnie Jones, but refusing to fire him was admirable. Where I'm from, a leader takes the blame whenever possible. Affirmative action can be attacked regardless of whether or not merit is the only thing involve in NFL hiring decisions. White coaches without connections are hurt in that case as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg de'Ville Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 ...5-27? Dubious. "Lonnie" was a "special" team guy all right. He made the Bills ST in that one season--and WTAMU in general--especially BAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I can see attacking Wade for hiring Ronnie Jones, but refusing to fire him was admirable. Where I'm from, a leader takes the blame whenever possible. 310310[/snapback] That same leader made Bruce DeHaven take the blame for Home Run Throw Forward so he could hire Ronnie in the first place. Sorry, I'm not going to get all choked up about Wade's stand on principle in this case, especially when he was so quick to sell DeHaven down the river the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 That same leader made Bruce DeHaven take the blame for Home Run Throw Forward so he could hire Ronnie in the first place. Sorry, I'm not going to get all choked up about Wade's stand on principle in this case, especially when he was so quick to sell DeHaven down the river the year before. 310384[/snapback] I've always thought that Ralph forced the DeHaven firing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Didn't Jones steal money from the Bills too??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I've always thought that Ralph forced the DeHaven firing.... 310391[/snapback] So why didn't Wade stand on principle with DeHaven the way he did with Ronnie? Because Ronnie was his buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 So why didn't Wade stand on principle with DeHaven the way he did with Ronnie? Because Ronnie was his buddy. 310395[/snapback] Hmm.. good point, but are we supposed to through our buddies under the bus now? I am sure many folks here would have done similar things when they oversaw friends. I always thought that Ralph was just looking for an excuse to fire Wade that year, but maybe I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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