Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: This will be a good case study on whether or not preseason games are a requirement. As I get older, the more I am annoyed by the preseason. Hopefully they never go back to 4 games after this. Well then you'll get pre-season quality of play for the first few regular season games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: This will be a good case study on whether or not preseason games are a requirement. As I get older, the more I am annoyed by the preseason. Hopefully they never go back to 4 games after this. Preseason games aren't for the fans. They're for the coaches (player evaluation) and owners ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Well then you'll get pre-season quality of play for the first few regular season games. I would say two preseason games should be enough. While the games are meaningless for the fans and boring they are necessary for the coaches and players. Especially those trying to make the team. Edited July 21, 2020 by Greg S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Yeah, I can't see getting rid of it entirely. Two games seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, I can't see getting rid of it entirely. Two games seems reasonable. But then the owners would insist on an 18 game schedule. You down with that, Doc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: But then the owners would insist on an 18 game schedule. You down with that, Doc? If the owners insist on 20 games then I would prefer 2 and 18 over 4 and 16. If it were my choice I would say 2 preseason and 16 regular season games. Don't add anymore playoff teams even though I know they are doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: But then the owners would insist on an 18 game schedule. You down with that, Doc? Sure. Why not? And the NFL is already moving to a 17-game season with the current format. Removing 2 pre-season games is a good bargaining chip for an 18th game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: This will be a good case study on whether or not preseason games are a requirement. As I get older, the more I am annoyed by the preseason. Hopefully they never go back to 4 games after this. I'm old enough to remember when they had 6. But I don't mind PS, in fact I like it. After months and months of no football ?, it is welcomed. I like watching what the backup QBs and other guys that don't play much. Was looking forward to watching the back up QB battle with Baker and Jake and the the kickers. It's not real football, but a good way to ease back into the seaon. I'd rather have it so we have some football?in August. Now instead of having a game in a few weeks we gotta wait til after Labor Day. Sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: If the owners insist on 20 games then I would prefer 2 and 18 over 4 and 16. If it were my choice I would say 2 preseason and 16 regular season games. Don't add anymore playoff teams even though I know they are doing that. 1 minute ago, Doc said: Sure. Why not? And the NFL is already moving to a 17-game season with the current format. Removing 2 pre-season games is a good bargaining chip for an 18th game. I'm with you. 2 and 16 would be great. But the owners aren't going back to less than 20 games total. Reducing revenue streams aren't in their metabolism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, BornAgainBillsFan said: I'm with you. 2 and 16 would be great. But the owners aren't going back to less than 20 games total. Reducing revenue streams aren't in their metabolism. Then 2 and 18. Like Doc said they already will have 17 which is stupid for the obvious reason. They need to make it an even number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 10 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: I have been adamantly in the “let’s wait and see” crowd. I’ve been optimistic for a season. But I agree with you. It’s getting close to crunch time and cases are just increasing outside of a handful of states. I’m turning from optimistic for a season to a bit more pessimistic. If the states getting hit hard now (FL, AZ, CA, TX) follow the same trend as the Northeast did the cases should be significantly down in cases by early August. I think we should be a go to start the season and just hope that a second wave doesn't hit during it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: I'm with you. 2 and 16 would be great. But the owners aren't going back to less than 20 games total. Reducing revenue streams aren't in their metabolism. 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: Then 2 and 18. Like Doc said they already will have 17 which is stupid for the obvious reason. They need to make it an even number. Yeah, I meant going to 2 and 18. Maybe throw in an extra bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Sure. Why not? And the NFL is already moving to a 17-game season with the current format. Removing 2 pre-season games is a good bargaining chip for an 18th game. They won't be able to push it to 18 games at least until 2030 when they negotiate a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: They won't be able to push it to 18 games at least until 2030 when they negotiate a new contract. Is it a fact that they can only do this in a new CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Is it a fact that they can only do this in a new CBA? I believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: Never give anyone the chance to make you obsolete. The virus has the ultimate chance to make you obsolete. I'm still shocked by how many people don't give that any weight in their theoretical decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, I meant going to 2 and 18. Maybe throw in an extra bye week. I kinda like the idea that rosters would expand and each player can only be activated for 16 games. If the NFL and NFLPA are $o hot on player $afety, how could it make $en$e to add more game$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, driddles said: The virus has the ultimate chance to make you obsolete. I'm still shocked by how many people don't give that any weight in their theoretical decisions. A very low chance. And you're banking on them finding a vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If the states getting hit hard now (FL, AZ, CA, TX) follow the same trend as the Northeast did the cases should be significantly down in cases by early August. I think we should be a go to start the season and just hope that a second wave doesn't hit during it. I don't follow your logic regarding the Northeast "trend". The Northeast had case reduce due to a shut down and strict mask and social distancing protocols. It didn't just randomly burn itself. The states you listed above are doing little to stop the spread of Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Connect the dots! Follow the money! ...Bradley is an uncontested roster lock then........this should get interesting 'round these parts.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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