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25 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

yeah....

 

how many pro-ready high schoolers are there?  ones that seriously can step in and make a difference without 2-3 years of learning the pro game?

 

the Euro kids are a different matter, they are honed on the modern game a lot better than their US counterparts

 

tossing away a chance at an education over a pipe dream of playing in the NBA is not something that the NCAA should be encouraging

 

 

There aren't that many young players who will be ready for the pro ranks. That's understood. And it isn't the NCAA that is encouraging kids to leave. The kids,  their families and advisors are making decisions that they believe is in their best interests. For many their pipe dream is an illusion. But they have the right to make that decision for themselves. As far as getting an education or not or delaying it that is also their decision to make. 

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Wow, amazing comeback by Oregon to take down Seton Hall. Next up is Gonzaga, then hopefully North Carolina. Brutal schedule in the Battle for Atlantis. Finish the game at 11:40, play tomorrow at 4. Game is same time as the Bills unfortunately but I got the 2nd TV set up in the man cave.👍

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14 hours ago, JohnC said:

There aren't that many young players who will be ready for the pro ranks. That's understood. And it isn't the NCAA that is encouraging kids to leave. The kids,  their families and advisors are making decisions that they believe is in their best interests. For many their pipe dream is an illusion. But they have the right to make that decision for themselves. As far as getting an education or not or delaying it that is also their decision to make. 

 

i can't the majority of the time be cynical enough to suggest they completely stop the fake education aspect of college sports.... sometimes i can

 

the product is in horrible decline, this is total bogus nonsense for top teams to lose like this, they can't stock a decent team any more???

 

still believe kids with some spark of a brain should be encouraged to earn the chance for an education and give it a shot, it's really important in life for the 998,000 out of the 998,001 hoopsters who won't make a permanent living from pro hoops

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4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

i can't the majority of the time be cynical enough to suggest they completely stop the fake education aspect of college sports.... sometimes i can

 

the product is in horrible decline, this is total bogus nonsense for top teams to lose like this, they can't stock a decent team any more???[/v]

 

still believe kids with some spark of a brain should be encouraged to earn the chance for an education and give it a shot, it's really important in life for the 998,000 out of the 998,001 hoopsters who won't make a permanent living from pro hoops

I disagree with you that the product is in a horrible decline. The players are better. Where I agree with you is that the product is different with the one and done players. Kids who want to stay in school and are motivated to get an education get it. And kids who aren't motivated to get an education don't get their degrees. That has not changed. I challenge you go through the football rosters of Alabama, Clemson, Florida and Georgia etc and see how many of those student/athletes actually get their degrees, even those who stay for four years. The landscape in college BB has changed, and it is not going back. Even Duke under Coach K has come to that realization and is adjusting to that new reality.  

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37 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I disagree with you that the product is in a horrible decline. The players are better. Where I agree with you is that the product is different with the one and done players. Kids who want to stay in school and are motivated to get an education get it. And kids who aren't motivated to get an education don't get their degrees. That has not changed. I challenge you go through the football rosters of Alabama, Clemson, Florida and Georgia etc and see how many of those student/athletes actually get their degrees, even those who stay for four years. The landscape in college BB has changed, and it is not going back. Even Duke under Coach K has come to that realization and is adjusting to that new reality.  

 

i grew up watching Bill Walton/David Thompson, Bird/Magic/, Ewing/Olajuwon, so the players are clearly not better in a 1 and done scenario

 

sticking around extra years in college made the college game much stronger with talent, which causes some $$$ concerns and that's understood

 

and i accept we aren't going back to that

 

but i seek to watch great talent on display, i have no interest in particular teams winning or doing well, i just want to see what is clearly great talent, and it isn't there....

 

i'll watch probably 200 games this year, not really caring about names of players (it just doesn't matter for almost all of them) and hoping that i really feel someone is worth tuning in to watch, they exist

 

so Coach K can't find a kid who can shoot the 3 for another season??

 

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10 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

i grew up watching Bill Walton/David Thompson, Bird/Magic/, Ewing/Olajuwon, so the players are clearly not better in a 1 and done scenario

 

sticking around extra years in college made the college game much stronger with talent, which causes some $$$ concerns and that's understood

 

and i accept we aren't going back to that

 

but i seek to watch great talent on display, i have no interest in particular teams winning or doing well, i just want to see what is clearly great talent, and it isn't there....

 

i'll watch probably 200 games this year, not really caring about names of players (it just doesn't matter for almost all of them) and hoping that i really feel someone is worth tuning in to watch, they exist

 

so Coach K can't find a kid who can shoot the 3 for another season??

 

With respect to the highlighted segment Coach K can definitely find plenty of kids who can shoot the three for addition years. However, this Army grad is smart enough to understand that he can find better three point shooters who will be at his elite academic institution for a one year basketball sabbatical. Coach K may be a traditionalist but he is savvy enough to adjust to the changing business model. The good old days are the good old days. Today is a different era and reality.  

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On 11/28/2019 at 10:12 AM, JohnC said:

With respect to the highlighted segment Coach K can definitely find plenty of kids who can shoot the three for addition years. However, this Army grad is smart enough to understand that he can find better three point shooters who will be at his elite academic institution for a one year basketball sabbatical. Coach K may be a traditionalist but he is savvy enough to adjust to the changing business model. The good old days are the good old days. Today is a different era and reality.  

 

the genius of Coach K to lose to freakin' SFA at home?

 

applause, eternal applause.... yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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19 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

the genius of Coach K to lose to freakin' SFA at home?

 

applause, eternal applause.... yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was a useful early season loss for coach K to get the message to his talented team that they aren't as good as everyone makes them out to be. Coach K is one of the best coaches in the business. His teams get better as the season advances. There are plenty of coaches to sneer at---he shouldn't be one of them. He is one of the best in the business. If you don't believe me then check his glorious record. 

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Michigan wins the Battle for Atlantis tournament!

 

They soundly beat both North Carolina & Gonzaga.

 

They have to get a Top 25 ranking after this. I'm very impressed with how they have been able to score with so many players. Juwan Howard has this team focused.

 

Now for their reward, they have to go on the road to play Louisville. Yeesh!

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Duke back on top after beating Winthrop or Winchester or Whatever

 

did they rush the floor and cut down the nets?

 

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Should be some good games next week for B1G vs ACC teams, heading into conference  play.

 

 

 

 

Vols/VCU at 4pm is the best on paper today 

 

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On 11/27/2019 at 6:04 PM, row_33 said:

 

yeah....

 

how many pro-ready high schoolers are there?  ones that seriously can step in and make a difference without 2-3 years of learning the pro game?

 

the Euro kids are a different matter, they are honed on the modern game a lot better than their US counterparts

 

tossing away a chance at an education over a pipe dream of playing in the NBA is not something that the NCAA should be encouraging

 

 

 

 

They should make the draft like the MLB has it.  You could get drafted out of high school & follow your MLB dreams but if you go into college you are not eligible to reenter the draft until after your junior year.  This way if a kid doesn't like where he is drafted out of high school he could hone his skill in college.  

 

I think it is tough to win with one & doners in the tournament unless the talent is superb.  There is such an advantage in a tournament setting of having upperclassmen leadership especially in the backcourt.  I think K & Cal are starting to realize this.  They will still go after the one year players but it takes supreme talent to win it all with that kind of setup.  Duke couldn't do it last year & that was a once in lifetime freshman class. 

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Canes tried to run Illinois off the court early, almost blew a 27 point lead and squeaked out the win

 

small PG Lykes put on a display with 29 in the win

 

7 foot frosh Kofi Cockburn anchored the Illini comeback

 

 

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