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My way too early thought...Beane crushed this draft

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2 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

between lacy and stanford, i'd give the edge to stanford. so let's see, that would be....lorax / edmunds and milano with..thompson / stanford and vosean.

man i never thought i'd see a roster where i couldn't figure out an idea of just 53. i'm sure i'm gonna be bummed at some cuts.

Dont forget Acho who we just signed and has been a viable player for the bears on a good defense for years

 

Cuts are gonna be VERY tough

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32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Dont forget Acho who we just signed and has been a viable player for the bears on a good defense for years

 

Cuts are gonna be VERY tough

hey John fyi I heard on wgr that Acho will be competing at DE not LB in Bills D.

 

Doesn't make decisions clearer

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Just now, freddyjj said:

hey John I heard on wgr that Acho will be competing at DE not LB in Bills D

Thanks for letting me know....:) 

 

I still do wonder if bringing him in signals a possible move like moving Shaq Lawson?

 

He is one of the few remaining players from the Rex Ryan era

Not signed for next year (like Clowney)

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

Thanks for letting me know....:) 

 

I still do wonder if bringing him in signals a possible move like moving Shaq Lawson?

 

He is one of the few remaining players from the Rex Ryan era

Not signed for next year (like Clowney)

hmmm  - never thought of it that way.  Could be

 

Acho gave way to Mack in CHI.  Very smart and assignment sound player.  

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On 8/9/2019 at 3:59 PM, Nihilarian said:

And all this with a brand new scouting staff after Whaley was fired after the 2017 draft. 

 

Yea brand new because he overreacted, fired all and then after he actually looked at them more closely brought 3 back.

This is part of Coach McD's "dump the baby with the bath water" philosophy.

It is also why we got a lot of bad coaches who only lasted one year.

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5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

With all the talk on Clowney I do wonder if Lawson plus a 3rd would get that deal done....I dont want to give up a lot of future assets but could live with that.....D. Johnson might make a move like this more possible?

 

Sills is completely unimpressive......he just gets pushed around too much and drops too many balls for a "big" wide receiver

 

No on Clowney. 

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38 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

No on Clowney. 

 

 

Thats how i feel, because they would have to give up draft capital to get him.  Now if they could trade a player maybe 2 to get him I would consider it.  

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2 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

Thats how i feel, because they would have to give up draft capital to get him.  Now if they could trade a player maybe 2 to get him I would consider it.  

 

I wouldn't trade for him period.  Besides the trade compensation, he''ll want a huge new contract despite the fact that he's never had even 10 sacks in a season, despite playing on a line with Watt.  Or he'll play out the year and leave in FA.

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I think in one series during the Colts game, Barkley handed off to Singletary something like nine plays in a row. People say that preseason games are meaningless, but I love them. I love watching players battle for spots on the roster, but I also love to see a coach like McDermott give a rookie RB back a pounding to see what he's made of. It's a shame Knox wasn't out there-- maybe he would have gotten his first touchdown. But, I suspect we will see him soon enough.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

I wouldn't trade for him period.  Besides the trade compensation, he''ll want a huge new contract despite the fact that he's never had even 10 sacks in a season, despite playing on a line with Watt.  Or he'll play out the year and leave in FA.

 

To be honest Im not a big fan of him,  but if the trade compensation is low like players who may not make the 53 or make the 53 any better, why not?

 

This year cap space is no issue, and I believe he could be franchised. If he has a good year franchise him and trade for draft capital.   Or  trade him during the season the deadline is after 7 games, there just might be a team that is banged up  need a pass rusher bad. 

 

The biggest problem I see is we already have a solid DE rotation.  

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6 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

To be honest Im not a big fan of him,  but if the trade compensation is low like players who may not make the 53 or make the 53 any better, why not?

 

This year cap space is no issue, and I believe he could be franchised. If he has a good year franchise him and trade for draft capital.   Or  trade him during the season the deadline is after 7 games, there just might be a team that is banged up  need a pass rusher bad. 

 

The biggest problem I see is we already have a solid DE rotation.  

 

Yeah, they have a lot of money tied-up at DE.  I'd rather see what Murphy can do and have them develop Johnson.

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7 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Yea brand new because he overreacted, fired all and then after he actually looked at them more closely brought 3 back.

This is part of Coach McD's "dump the baby with the bath water" philosophy.

It is also why we got a lot of bad coaches who only lasted one year.

If anyone was brought back it was by Beane who is the GM and responsible for the scouting staff, not McD.

 

This is a brand new HC and he is learning as he goes. Being a first time NFL HC, he doesn't know what he doesn't know! Be happy that this HC recognized a wrong personnel decision and corrected it. Some of the coaches he hired came with some really quality resumes of past NFL experience. The NFL is a results business that requires good results and this HC demands an assistant coach get positive results to keep his job. That's a great thing!

 

Hey, I don't know if McD has the wherewithal to be guy who can beat Bill Belichick on a regular basis like Marv levy did against Don Shula. But I think he has a earned a few more years to show that he can simply by getting this team to the playoffs in his first season. A 9-7 season with Tyrod Taylor at QB!!!...a guy who got one win for Cleveland in 3 tries and was promptly replaced. McD had a rookie QB last season along with some backups who had about a week or so to prepare to start.  

 

Speaking of that, the QBs in the draft who were noted to be more polished and ready to start in the NFL. The #1 overall pick at QB in Baker Mayfield only won one game more at 7-8-1. The QB selected #3 overall took his team to a 4-12 record and was on pace to break the rookie interception record before being injured for 3 games. Most of this board wanted the Bills to draft Josh Rosen "the chosen" to be their QB and wanted Beane to trade away the farm in that years draft along with the 2019 first round pick to move up to the #2 with the NY Giants to draft Rosen, who went 3-10 with Arizona. 

 

Lighten up, as this years team might surprise. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, artmalibu said:

 

Just read this

 

 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/13/jadeveon-clowney-trade-wont-be-easy-to-pull-off/

 

My answer has changed, no chance in wanting him...  

Geez, from that link!

 

"Anyone trading for Clowney would be getting his services for one year, with no ability to sign him to an extension until after the regular season ends. At that point, Clowney would have the leverage of a 20-percent raise over his 2019 salary, whether it’s $15.967 million or, if his grievance regarding his alleged status as a defensive end is successful, $17.128 million. That equates to either $19.16 million or $20.55 million for 2020, either of which becomes the starting point for negotiations on a long-term deal."

 

"So what would a team, assuming it has the cap space to absorb Clowney’s contract, give up in order to get Clowney for one year? And what would the Texans want to part with the rights to Clowney for 2019 plus the ability to franchise-tag him in 2020, sign him to a long-term deal, or let him walk in free agency with a compensatory draft pick arriving in 2021?"

 

No thanks! 

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