B-Man Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: It's cute how so many old Republicans are in denial about what's coming. Only once in the past 30 years have the people of the United States chosen a Republican president. Soon, not even the great wall that is the electoral college will be able to protect them anymore. Tom was wrong earlier today in another thread............. P.S. Helpful hint: starting your post with "it's cute" simply identifies you as a non-serious poster. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Tom was wrong earlier today in another thread............. P.S. Helpful hint: starting your post with "it's cute" simply identifies you as a non-serious poster. . ut oh! Run for the hills! @DC Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: Tom was wrong earlier today in another thread............. P.S. Helpful hint: starting your post with "it's cute" simply identifies you as a non-serious poster. . Oh, B-Man. You must be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh, B-Man. You must be one of them. What's your chosen partisan ideology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: What's your chosen partisan ideology? I think I'm a Democrat at the moment. I'd have to check my registration card. I've flipped between Democrat and Independent for the majority of my adult life. This was after I escaped an alt-right upbringing riddled with conspiracy theories, doomsday prep, FOX News, etc. My experience has been that it is pretty much impossible to change the thinking of baby boomer+ Republicans. I'm legitimately scared to see what actions they will take as the country slips out of their grasp in the coming decades, whether that is through long-overdue abolishment of the electoral college or simply through the demographics of this country becoming such that a Republican simply cannot win the college. Trump's presidency is probably the "last ride" for these folks. But their online tirades, bullying, and fake news propaganda will only grow stronger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I think I'm a Democrat at the moment. I'd have to check my registration card. I've flipped between Democrat and Independent for the majority of my adult life. This was after I escaped an alt-right upbringing riddled with conspiracy theories, doomsday prep, FOX News, etc. Used to be a conservative (check) 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: My experience has been that it is pretty much impossible to change the thinking of baby boomer+ Republicans. Is an ageist (check) 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm legitimately scared to see what actions they will take as the country slips out of their grasp in the coming decades, Did you by chance react the same way to the coup attempted by the DNC/Obama intelligence services when they lost the 16 election? Or was that not scary to you? 3 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: whether that is through long-overdue abolishment of the electoral college Will never happen without war. Legit war. But why would an independent former republican ever want to fundamentally change our form of government from a republic to mob rule? 2020 is going to be a rough time for you. I hope you don't lose what's left of your senses in the aftermath. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Used to be a conservative (check) Is an ageist (check) Did you by chance react the same way to the coup attempted by the DNC/Obama intelligence services when they lost the 16 election? Or was that not scary to you? Will never happen without war. Legit war. But why would an independent former republican ever want to fundamentally change our form of government from a republic to mob rule? 2020 is going to be a rough time for you. I hope you don't lose what's left of your senses in the aftermath. Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh dear... Yup. You'll be uttering that quite a bit come election night 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There's actually one thing in there that might be worthy of a response. Are you saying that everyone's vote counting the same equates to mob rule? Curious how you would feel if the electoral college hadn't singlehandedly gotten Trump elected. 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Yup. You'll be uttering that quite a bit come election night 2020 I concede that Trump may win again in 2020; I didn't suggest that he would be a one-term president. But, if he does win, that will undoubtedly be the last Republican hurrah for the foreseeable future. The country has changed and is changing too much for a Republican to win after 2020. They might be able to squeak out one more in 2020, but the fear, disinformation, racism, "rights" talk, and conspiracy theories will not be enough moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: There's actually one thing in there that might be worthy of a response. There were plenty of things worthy of a response -- like how you blow off a coup attempt by the USIC as not being "real" while pushing fear of "what Republicans might do" if they lost an election. 8 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Are you saying that everyone's vote counting the same equates to mob rule? ...And you chose the stupidest hill to die on. We are not a democracy. We are a republic by design. This country was wisely founded on a fear of pure democracy (which is mob rule). Pushing for the elimination of the electoral college exposes your ignorance of history, what this country was founded to combat, and your true partisan leanings. Everyone's vote counts the same... in the House which is a direct representative body. The executive is not that and never was meant to be. 8 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Curious how you would feel if the electoral college hadn't singlehandedly gotten Trump elected. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not a republican. I feel the same way now as I did in 2016, 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000... the EC is designed to give a voice to the smaller population states. Taking that away disenfranchises millions of Americans and assures that large swaths of the country would go underrepresented. What you're advocating for is a complete transformation of our government. Because you're a radical. 8 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: They might be able to squeak out one more in 2020, but the fear, disinformation, racism, "rights" talk, and conspiracy theories will not be enough moving forward. Then you might want to tell that to the DNC who has pushed racism in the form of identity politics for decades. They pushed a now proven false conspiracy theory about Trump/Russia conspiracy for three years -- dividing the country dangerously so in the process. Edited August 13, 2019 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: What you're advocating for is a complete transformation of our government. Because you're a radical. If I'm a radical, then so are the majority of Americans. I literally don't have time to get into all of your points (and, no, that doesn't mean I am conceding them to you or wouldn't relish the discussion), but if weighting the vote of an Idaho farmer the same as that of a black single mother in the city is radical, then yes; I will proudly concede that I am a radical, as are the majority of my fellow Americans. All of these "But that's not how we were founded!" points that conservatives/libertarians/etc. often make are tired and are usually just a convenient way of protecting political power. The president should be elected by the vote of the people, period, and no American voice matters less or more than the next. There is too much unilateral power at stake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 That Russia conspired to sway the election in Trump's favor is a documented fact. Anyone claiming otherwise at this point is probably too far gone to engage in a reasonable discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, The Bills Blog said: If I'm a radical, then so are the majority of Americans. False. This is not backed up by any reliable numbers. Just now, The Bills Blog said: I literally don't have time to get into all of your points (and, no, that doesn't mean I am conceding them to you or wouldn't relish the discussion), You can always come back and post later. There's no time limit to a conversation. 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: but if weighting the vote of an Idaho farmer the same as that of a black single mother in the city is radical, then yes; I will proudly concede that I am a radical, as are the majority of my fellow Americans. Again, this is false. And you're completely ignoring how our republic was created, structured, and designed. You're proving your own ignorance of basic civics. 2 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: All of these "But that's not how we were founded!" points that conservatives/libertarians/etc. often make are tired and are usually just a convenient way of protecting political power. You're exposing your ignorance again. You're pushing to completely transform our form of government from a republic to a pure democracy. That's a radical transformation which the majority of the country does not support. You're asking for war, not peace. What's hilarious is you clearly do not like Donald Trump -- yet he was legally elected POTUS. The form of government you're advocating for would make it more difficult to check his power, not less. You're literally working to make it easier for authoritarians to gain control in this country and never relinquish it. 4 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: The president should be elected by the vote of the people, period, and no American voice matters less or more than the next. That's not how the country was created. That's not how the constitution was written. It was specifically written to avoid this because of the fear the founders rightly had of pure democracy/mob rule. Your ignorance is showing again. 5 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: There is too much unilateral power at stake. POTUS is not a king. Treating him as such is your problem. We have checks against POTUS overreach in the form of the people, the courts, and the legislative branch. Almost like this country was brilliantly designed by very intelligent men who understood the dangers the state poses to individual liberty. You're advocating for a completely different form of government without understanding it. Because you're an ignorant radical -- which is just how they want you. It's how they programmed you the past three years. Just now, The Bills Blog said: That Russia conspired to sway the election in Trump's favor is a documented fact. Anyone claiming otherwise at this point is probably too far gone to engage in a reasonable discussion. Nice dodge. The original charge for three years was Trump actively colluded/conspired with Russia to steal the election. That was what was promised by the left and the media. Politicians claimed to have evidence of such treason countless times... Now we know that didn't happen. It never was real. It was a lie from the start. A conspiracy theory designed to push FEAR and DIVIDE the country. And engineered by 44, the DNC, and the USIC. Try again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I'm sorry, but I won't engage in a discussion with someone who resorts to insults and name-calling. I'm not ignorant, I'm not a radical, and you are clearly very tweaked by all of this. You are definitely not someone whose opinion will be changing. Quickly on the polling regarding popular vote/electoral college though, come on -- what I said is true and has been supported by polling for decades. But, between you and me, I have a busy job. I work over 50 hours a week, and I don't have time for forums during work hours. I have a daughter to care for and friends and family. I don't have time to make a high priority of online arguments with locked-in idealogues. I'm already behind from wasting this time. You can have your little space here most of the time if it makes you feel better. Defend your dirt, dude. The country is changing whether you like it or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm sorry, but I won't engage in a discussion with someone who resorts to insults and name-calling. Calling you ignorant is not name calling. Calling you stupid would be. Ignorance implies you can learn and better yourself. 40 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm not ignorant, I'm not a radical, and you are clearly very tweaked by all of this. I'm not tweaked. I'm a motivated, informed patriot who cares deeply about my country and the people in it. You included. When one of my fellow countrymen expresses ignorance (worse than that, programmed ignorance) I call it out not because I'm tweaked but because I'm pushing you to be better. To learn more about the subject you're opining on. We were founded on the right to disagree. And the views you've espoused here I deeply disagree with. 41 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: You are definitely not someone whose opinion will be changing I'm nothing if I'm not flexible and willing to change my opinion. I've proven that over and over on here with my history. What I won't abide is someone sharing falsehoods without the evidence or reasoning to support it. Which is what you have done and continue to do. You offer nothing to back up your claims, you run from any push back against it -- that's the sign of a weak argument/position. Get better information. Get a better argument. And maybe I'll change my mind -- which I often do when presented with new and compelling information. 43 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Quickly on the polling regarding popular vote/electoral college though, come on -- what I said is true and has been supported by polling for decades. It's not. No serious polling backs it up. You've been lied to -- repeatedly based on your comments on Russia -- by people who think you're too lazy to fact check their nonsense. 44 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: But, between you and me, I have a busy job. I work over 50 hours a week, and I don't have time for forums during work hours. I have a daughter to care for and friends and family. I don't have time to make a high priority of online arguments with locked-in idealogues. I'm already behind from wasting this time. The only one putting a time limit on this conversation is you. Another sign that you have a weak argument and know it. 45 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: You can have your little space here most of the time if it makes you feel better. Defend your dirt, dude. The country is changing whether you like it or not. I have no problem with change. I have a big problem with violent revolution -- which is what you're unknowingly (or is it knowingly?) advocating for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm sorry, but I won't engage in a discussion with someone who resorts to insults and name-calling. I'm not ignorant, I'm not a radical, and you are clearly very tweaked by all of this. You are definitely not someone whose opinion will be changing. Quickly on the polling regarding popular vote/electoral college though, come on -- what I said is true and has been supported by polling for decades. Welcome to PPP. Here's a few things you need to understand: 1.) You're deemed an idiot until and unless proven otherwise, which is not unique to you. Unfortunately, most everyone here is eternally deemed an idiot, because @DC Tom, the arbiter of idiocy, doesn't remove the tag often. 2.) If you want to cite to statistics, back your schiff up or prepared to be mocked, dismissed, drawn, quartered, laughed at, mocked, then disregarded. 3.) Schmucks, morons, and the uninformed don't do well in the 'dungeon'. 4.) If you understand 1-3, you'll be fine down here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, The Bills Blog said: I'm sorry, but I won't engage in a discussion with someone who resorts to insults and name-calling. I'm not ignorant, I'm not a radical, and you are clearly very tweaked by all of this. You are definitely not someone whose opinion will be changing. Quickly on the polling regarding popular vote/electoral college though, come on -- what I said is true and has been supported by polling for decades. But, between you and me, I have a busy job. I work over 50 hours a week, and I don't have time for forums during work hours. I have a daughter to care for and friends and family. I don't have time to make a high priority of online arguments with locked-in idealogues. I'm already behind from wasting this time. You can have your little space here most of the time if it makes you feel better. Defend your dirt, dude. The country is changing whether you like it or not. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: It's cute how so many old Republicans are in denial about what's coming. Only once in the past 30 years have the people of the United States chosen a Republican president. Soon, not even the great wall that is the electoral college will be able to protect them anymore. You are either very wrong or you don't know how to say what you are trying to say. 35 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Welcome to PPP. Here's a few things you need to understand: 1.) You're deemed an idiot until and unless proven otherwise, which is not unique to you. Unfortunately, most everyone here is eternally deemed an idiot, because @DC Tom, the arbiter of idiocy PPP's idiot judge doesn't remove the tag often. 2.) If you want to cite to statistics, back your schiff up or prepared to be mocked, dismissed, drawn, quartered, laughed at, mocked, then disregarded. 3.) Schmucks, morons, and the uninformed don't do well in the 'dungeon'. 4.) If you understand 1-3, you'll be fine down here. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Used to be a conservative (check) Is an ageist (check) Did you by chance react the same way to the coup attempted by the DNC/Obama intelligence services when they lost the 16 election? Or was that not scary to you? Will never happen without war. Legit war. But why would an independent former republican ever want to fundamentally change our form of government from a republic to mob rule? 2020 is going to be a rough time for you. I hope you don't lose what's left of your senses in the aftermath. Would it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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