What makes you think Teague cannot be LT?

[Kelly the Dog]

I am not sure that is really a fair question.  If being a good blocker was simply a matter of having certain quantifiable physical qualities then all you would need to guarantee drafting a pro bowler would be some measuring tape, a stop watch and some weights.  It doesn't work that way.  My reasons for thinking that TT is less than a sure thing at LT has nothing to do with my believing he is physically limited in some way, it is based on me seeing him miss too many blocks.  Whether he missed them because he misread the defense, was too slow, too fast, too weak or too strong, I don't care.

 

You may be right that Teague has some talent as yet untapped that JM will bring out so I see what you are trying to get at with a question about his skill set. 

 

I will say this, I spent a lot of time with my recorder playing back running plays this past season to focus on the line.  At times, Teague would make a great play out of nowhere.  I recall one where he was leading on a sweep and a LB came knifing into the backfield through a gap just behind the play.  The LB would have made the tackle for a loss but somehow Trey was able to stop his own momentum enough to dive back to the inside and pick the guy off in the nick of time.  It was a great play, no question.  However, he just doesn't make them very often or very consistently.  For every play like that there were a fistful of plays where he simply got beat.

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Well that was the kind of answer I was originally looking for.

[34-78-83]

I am not sure that is really a fair question.  If being a good blocker was simply a matter of having certain quantifiable physical qualities then all you would need to guarantee drafting a pro bowler would be some measuring tape, a stop watch and some weights.  It doesn't work that way.  My reasons for thinking that TT is less than a sure thing at LT has nothing to do with my believing he is physically limited in some way, it is based on me seeing him miss too many blocks.  Whether he missed them because he misread the defense, was too slow, too fast, too weak or too strong, I don't care.

 

You may be right that Teague has some talent as yet untapped that JM will bring out so I see what you are trying to get at with a question about his skill set. 

 

I will say this, I spent a lot of time with my recorder playing back running plays this past season to focus on the line.  At times, Teague would make a great play out of nowhere.  I recall one where he was leading on a sweep and a LB came knifing into the backfield through a gap just behind the play.  The LB would have made the tackle for a loss but somehow Trey was able to stop his own momentum enough to dive back to the inside and pick the guy off in the nick of time.  It was a great play, no question.  However, he just doesn't make them very often or very consistently.  For every play like that there were a fistful of plays where he simply got beat.

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Now you're talkin' Mickey

[Mickey]

What most people on this board chose to forget was that Teague was the Broncos' LT and thought he was brought to Buffalo to play that position.  He was quite upset when he learned he was being moved to C.  He didn't become a pain in the ass and finally accepted this shift but I'm certain he can still play the tackle position. 

 

Whether he's willing to go back to it is another question.

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My recollection is that he only started one year for them and that was it. They had lost Tony Jones and had no one left besides Cooper Carlisle, a perennial back-up. Didn't they sign Ephraim Salaam in free agency to replace him the year we signed him and Blake Brockemayer? They were in an "anyone but Teague" mode that year in figuring out their starting LT.

[Bill from NYC]

Nothing. At this point, I view him as the leading candidate.

[seq004]

like he doesn't go head to head with larger players while playing C.

 

He will be no worse than John Fina as LT.

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I'll agree with that assessment. To me Teague would do no better or no worse than John Fina which is bad news for the Bills O-line again this year. When Fina was playing left tackle how many times did we wish for an improvement in that position. Come on man how long will the O-line be a weak spot in Buffalo? I know a lot of posters have said in "TD I trust" but looking at our record and the offensive line history since he has arrived along with no playoffs I have no idea why some of us would say that. Please don't give the "He helped us out of cap hell" because that is the standard job of every GM in todays NFL. The GM's of the pre-salary cap had to learn the hard way to manage the cap ie Butler

[NorCal Aaron]

All things being equal, Teague would have to become black, snort alot of coke and wreak havoc on qbs.

 

1 out of 3 ain't bad.

[buffalo mike]

What most people on this board chose to forget was that Teague was the Broncos' LT and thought he was brought to Buffalo to play that position.  He was quite upset when he learned he was being moved to C.  He didn't become a pain in the ass and finally accepted this shift but I'm certain he can still play the tackle position. 

 

Whether he's willing to go back to it is another question.

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That's exactly what happened. Mcnally likes him, so it seems. Training camp is still a ways off, but he looks like our LT right now. Any way you slice it our line is better already.

[John from Riverside]

First....if it happens....I will support it.

 

But

 

It is not my ideal situation....and it doesnt represent my ideal offensive line.

 

Given the fact that we have rejuvinated Damion Shelton blocking for what probably will be a many time pro bowler WIllis Magehee in the backfield....I want to see this line transfer over to a group of well over 300 pounder road grader offensive linemen that can move their feet at the line of scrimmage.......

 

A lot of it comes from a change in the backfield as well.....I think that by mid season the philosophy of opposing defense is going to do a 180 degree turn from what we have been seeing in past years with Bledsoe.......

 

In past years teams were concerned with just one thing with the bills.....getting pressure (particularly inside pressure) on Drew Bledsoe.....they would sell out to do it.......more then often it worked

 

If they do this they are going to leave a crack in their lanes that is going to allow Losman to sneak out......and when he does it will be for a lot of yardage....now they will work to CONTAIN Losman in the pocket

 

Now all of a sudden the group of road graders who everyone is worried about in pass protection look like they are doing a bang up job because the DEFENSIVE STRATEGY WILL CHANGE

 

now teams will sit back and try to confuse Losman.....Losman is going to throw some picks until he gets NFL aclimated....that is why we come full circle back the ORIGINAL OFFENSIVE STRENGTH.....

 

Big massing run road graders with Magehee piling up the yards......it will also help ups protect leads.......

[Guest BackInDaDay]

First....if it happens....I will support it.

 

But

 

It is not my ideal situation....and it doesnt represent my ideal offensive line.

 

Given the fact that we have rejuvinated Damion Shelton blocking for what probably will be a many time pro bowler WIllis Magehee in the backfield....I want to see this line transfer over to a group of well over 300 pounder road grader offensive linemen that can move their feet at the line of scrimmage.......

 

A lot of it comes from a change in the backfield as well.....I think that by mid season the philosophy of opposing defense is going to do a 180 degree turn from what we have been seeing in past years with Bledsoe.......

 

In past years teams were concerned with just one thing with the bills.....getting pressure (particularly inside pressure) on Drew Bledsoe.....they would sell out to do it.......more then often it worked

 

If they do this they are going to leave a crack in their lanes that is going to allow Losman to sneak out......and when he does it will be for a lot of yardage....now they will work to CONTAIN Losman in the pocket

 

Now all of a sudden the group of road graders who everyone is worried about in pass protection look like they are doing a bang up job because the DEFENSIVE STRATEGY WILL CHANGE

 

now teams will sit back and try to confuse Losman.....Losman is going to throw some picks until he gets NFL aclimated....that is why we come full circle back the ORIGINAL OFFENSIVE STRENGTH.....

 

Big massing run road graders with Magehee piling up the yards......it will also help ups protect leads.......

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Good post John.

 

In the same manner we kept opposing OGs off our LBs with large 2-gap DTs, OBD is attempting to build a wall, OT to OT, to protect JP. We'll sacrifice the fluidity necessary for making many plays work well (long-traps, sweeps and screens), but McGahee has the skills to take the corner on his own.

 

What we'll gain is control of the center of the line. McNally may ask Bobby April to help coach the O-line in the inside-gap blocking techniques his ST linemen learn to protect a placekick. Anything to stuff the push up the middle. You don't need to be an agile OG to accomplish that. Why is this important? Buying the kid the extra second to make his reads and get through his progressions will help him avoid some of the mistakes he's bound to make.

 

Considering the personnel, this stratedgy is a sound one. I may be wrong, but I think that's what they're going for. I don't think Teague at C hurts them here, but Tucker is a better fit.

 

If that pans out then either Teague bulks up, Smith wakes up, Peters steps up, or Shelton shows up to anchor the left side.

[TigerJ]

I find myself wondering why eague seems unable to add any muscle to his frame. At 6'5" I would think he could carry 320 or so without too much difficulty, but he seems stuck at 300 lbs, underweight by today's standards. Does he not participate in offseason weight and conditioning programs?

[Nanker]

I think Teague is an excellent to superior backup utility lineman.

He has the versatility to play most positions well enough.

He's no HOFer at any of them.

 

If he's our starting LT at the end of next season that will not be a good sign IMHO.

Now if they could just begin playing those friggin games so we'll find out the answers to all our burning questions.