Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Priorities What is @CountryCletus doing with all them guitars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Whattttt some of the their best grooves are on presence! And that’s not including Achilles imo. Overrated song. However, Nobody’s fault but mine is an absolute stomper. For your life is heavy too. Royal Orleans, ‘oh baby babbbeehhh’ how can you not sing along to that or the part in hots for nowhere where plant goes ‘la laaa laaa la la la laaaaa yeahhhhhhh’ My only criticism of Presence would be the album cover. Not a fan, they had much better, but who really cares. My only criticism of your post is the Achilles shade. Love the song, especially Bonham's devastating fills. Edited January 12, 2019 by SinceThe70s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: My only criticism of Presence would be the album cover. The 70s was weak sauce in many ways compared to the 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 hours ago, row_33 said: The 70s was weak sauce in many ways compared to the 60s. it was also superior in many ways to the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Foxx said: it was also superior in many ways to the 60's. I’ll pretend I didn’t read that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Foxx said: it was also superior in many ways to the 60's. 1 hour ago, row_33 said: I’ll pretend I didn’t read that.... Musically, the 60s and the 70s were both awesome, but very different in many ways. Kind of like DLR-era Van Halen vs. Sammy-era Van Halen. All great music, but so, so different. 70s still had plenty of awesome rock. Then came disco. I openly admit that I LOVE disco music. It's fun, it's happy and the bass lines are friggin' TIGHT. The late 70s saw rock bands jumping on the disco bandwagon (as I tell my son about bands "selling out," .... gotta pay the bills!) - McCartney/Wings' "Goodnight Tonight," is a great example. Hell, even KISS jumped in with, "I Was Made for Lovin' You." Every "decade" has awesome music. I do think the 60s were far superior to the 70s, but that doesn't mean the 70s sucked, by any means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 and what was not to love about the hair and the polyester of the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The album cover for Presence does indeed speak a lot about the 70s. Far from what Jagger was doing on the cover of Goats Head Soup. i will acknowledge that the creativity through acid was long gone by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Re: Presence (from wiki) The cover and inside sleeve, created by Hipgnosis with George Hardie, features images of people interacting with a black obelisk-shaped object. Inside the sleeve, the item is referred to simply as "The Object". It was intended to represent Zeppelin's "force and presence".[3][20] Hipgnosis cofounder Storm Thorgerson wrote that the obelisk represented the power of Led Zeppelin, saying they were "so powerful, they didn't need to be there".[21][22] Both Page and Plant have said that the presence of the object in the photographs made people stop and think about what is real, which reflected the music.[22] The background in the cover photograph is an artificial marina, installed in London's Earl's Court arena for the annual Boat Show, in the winter of 1974–75. The band played a series of concerts at this venue in May 1975, a few months after the boat show. The inner sleeve photographs came from various archive stock pictures, and was designed to resemble a feature in National Geographic.[23] The girl on the back cover photo is the same one that appeared on Houses of the Holy.[20] Hipgnosis and Hardie were nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Album Package in 1977.[24] Very cool trivia in the bolded text above!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Great, a manifesto on a rock album cover.... proving my point.... Thank goodness misters Rotten and Vicious showed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 21 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Whattttt some of the their best grooves are on presence! And that’s not including Achilles imo. Overrated song. However, Nobody’s fault but mine is an absolute stomper. For your life is heavy too. Royal Orleans, ‘oh baby babbbeehhh’ how can you not sing along to that or the part in hots for nowhere where plant goes ‘la laaa laaa la la la laaaaa yeahhhhhhh’ For your life is the most underrated Zep song in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 11:32 PM, row_33 said: RThe descending bass riff found in Babe I’m Gonna Leave You from LZ 1 25 or 6 to 4 While My Guitar Gently Weeps has been noted as a very common pattern, but I can’t come up with another knowable song from the rock era that has used it any other songs that use it that you can think of? Dream On - Aerosmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Dream On - Aerosmith Will give another listen, can’t hear it in my memory of the song 25 or 6 to 4 is built on it from the first second and is my template Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Dream On - Aerosmith Will give another listen, can’t hear it in my memory of the song 25 or 6 to 4 is built on it from the first second and is my template in memory WMGGW was recorded first, the issue would be originality but it hasn’t been a big deal even in a music world filled with plagiarism claims Edited January 13, 2019 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 ‘nother altered state, DADGAD tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: ‘nother altered state, DADGAD tuning. I remember watching this for the first time, thinking, "what the hell is the Edge doing there?!?!?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, row_33 said: Will give another listen, can’t hear it in my memory of the song 25 or 6 to 4 is built on it from the first second and is my template in memory WMGGW was recorded first, the issue would be originality but it hasn’t been a big deal even in a music world filled with plagiarism claims It's the bass line I'm referring to in Dream On. Should have specified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: It's the bass line I'm referring to in Dream On. Should have specified. I think I understood, I’ve heard the song a lot and never made the connection, will listen again this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 12:23 PM, Gugny said: Re: Presence (from wiki) The cover and inside sleeve, created by Hipgnosis with George Hardie, features images of people interacting with a black obelisk-shaped object. Inside the sleeve, the item is referred to simply as "The Object". It was intended to represent Zeppelin's "force and presence".[3][20] Hipgnosis cofounder Storm Thorgerson wrote that the obelisk represented the power of Led Zeppelin, saying they were "so powerful, they didn't need to be there".[21][22] Both Page and Plant have said that the presence of the object in the photographs made people stop and think about what is real, which reflected the music.[22] The background in the cover photograph is an artificial marina, installed in London's Earl's Court arena for the annual Boat Show, in the winter of 1974–75. The band played a series of concerts at this venue in May 1975, a few months after the boat show. The inner sleeve photographs came from various archive stock pictures, and was designed to resemble a feature in National Geographic.[23] The girl on the back cover photo is the same one that appeared on Houses of the Holy.[20] Hipgnosis and Hardie were nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Album Package in 1977.[24] Very cool trivia in the bolded text above!! If the intent was to represent Zeppelin's "force and presence" it missed the mark for me. I'm reminded of a quote from Spinal Tap: I think that the problem may have been, that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf. Alright? That tended to understate the hugeness of the object Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: If the intent was to represent Zeppelin's "force and presence" it missed the mark for me. I'm reminded of a quote from Spinal Tap: I think that the problem may have been, that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf. Alright? That tended to understate the hugeness of the object Can I ask a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do Stonehenge tomorrow night? Edited January 13, 2019 by row_33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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