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How Has Your Opinion Changed Or Not Re Trump?


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53 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I still think he is human garbage, and I think he is a weak, and cowardly.  I guess I am just not as evolved as some of you...

 

Given that you dehumanize people as "garbage," I guess you're not.  Thanks for your contribution to the violent political context.

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24 minutes ago, Gavin in Va Beach said:

I wonder if any of these people have changed their opinions?

 

 

 

And yet these supposedly smart people don't understand why Trump and his supporters treat them with disdain

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On 10/24/2018 at 10:11 AM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yup. The Kristols, the Frums, the former Bushies, all the "conservatives" that show up on MSNBC bashing Trump over the past two years tend to have a neoconservative thread in common. 

 

Jennifer Rubin and SE Cupp, as well.

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On 10/29/2018 at 8:31 PM, Rob's House said:

I wish I'd been here for the campaign. I had some reservations about Trump because he's not the ideologically devout libertarian-leaning conservative I'd prefer, but I wanted someone who would fight back against the PC crowd, would tear down the socialist-lite Republican party, and I figured he might do great things. If not I wasn't worried that he'd be worse than Hillary, and I wasn't broken up over the prospect of missing out on Lying Ted, low energy Jeb, or the little guy.

 

Sadly, I made the mistake of upsetting a middle-aged white male SJW by effectively arguing that race was not the primary distinction between the perceptions of Cam Newton and Peyton Manning. Well, that and accurately pointing out that the concept of begging the question as a logical fallacy was over his head. It didn't go well.

If it makes you feel any better that individual is still here

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On 10/23/2018 at 5:22 PM, TakeYouToTasker said:

I was one of the posters here most vocally opposed to President Trump when he was candidate Trump.

 

I found him boorish, poorly spoken, and was entirely unsure of what a Trump Presidency would look like from a policy perspective given his ties to Steve Bannon and his prior life as a long-time Democratic donor.

 

Given that the Presidency becomes the defacto leader of the Party, my fear as a classical liberal, was that he would be the death knell of traditional American conservative values.

 

I was wrong on every front, and am not ashamed to admit it.

 

President Trump has been the best thing that has happened to the concept of classical liberalism in my lifetime, and probably in the last 150 years of American governance.

 

He has fought tooth and nail against the modern slave trade, pursuing human freedom all over the world, even into the darkest corners where I never thought a light could shine.

 

He has forced government to reduce it's size and scope, working to return our legislative body to it's proper role, and has faithfully executed the laws congress has written.

 

He has appointed swaths of conservative, origionalist, and libertarian leaning judges to the bench; including two SCOTUS appointments who will serve to return our Government to it's proper role in American life.

 

He has torn up old treaties, unbeneficial to American interests, and forged new ones that directly benefit American business and people.

 

He has used the bully pulpit to lead globally, withdrawing us from the United Nations Human Rights Counsel, which was a hive of villainy and evil given legitimacy by the United States membership.

 

He has returned us to a proper course of ratifying international treaties with a withdrawal from an unbinding pledge from Kyoto.

 

He has worked to force Congress to do their jobs and legislate in regards to our immigration and border problems.

 

And this list is in no way comprehensive.

 

I came to this discussion as a fervent anti-Trump libertarian, and from my current vantage, if he continues on this arch, will be standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington.

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On other forums where I talk politics I had, several election cycles ago, derided the idea of a Trump campaign. I found him to be an imbecilic camera hog and never took him seriously as a Presidential candidate. 

 

When he took the nation by storm storm in the 2016 cycle I was fascinated by him. He was the least polished political figure I had ever seen. 

 

I'm a Ron Paul fan - an Austrian theory economist follower with strong Libertarian ideals and a strict Constitutionalist. Trump fits none of these holes with his square peg. 

 

That being said - I’m a big fan of what he’s doing. He’s thrown the whole game for a loop and this was sorely needed.

 

He’s making some critical mistakes with the economy and he sounds often like a complete philistine.... but he’s toying with the media and the Hollywood douches like a cat plays with a dead mouse and I ***** love that. He’s the greatest troll in history and certainly the funniest President of all time. 

 

When everyone hates you - a reality star who owns the largest and most successful luxury real estate brand in the world - you just might be onto something. 

 

MAGA!

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