Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's exactly what I'd like to do is discuss the merits based on actual game play. If you were truly interested in that you’d admit Allen has had better play with less around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: If you were truly interested in that you’d admit Allen has had better play with less around him Why would I admit to anything like that wehn it isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Why would I admit to anything like that wehn it isn't true. And this is why no one can take this thread seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, joesixpack said: And this is why no one can take this thread seriously. You're going to need to show some objective evidence beyond just making a statement. I'll be waiting. Pro Football Outsiders 2018 DYAR through Week Six Edited October 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're going to need to show some objective evidence beyond just making a statement. I'll be waiting. PFF 2018 DYAR through Week Six Pick 6 > DYAR, WHIP, TTFB, BYOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Pick 6 > DYAR, WHIP, TTFB, BYOB I can't even take you seriously when you won't analyze either of the INTs and admit that neither were the fault of Rosen with one coming on a tipped ball and the other when JJ Nelson stopped his route on an anticipated throw. Rosen played a bad game on TNF, but neither of those were on him. You also looked at his stat line in his 1st start and made an assessment that was inaccurate. Get serious beyond the nonsense postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Pick 6 > DYAR, WHIP, TTFB, BYOB 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're going to need to show some objective evidence beyond just making a statement. I'll be waiting. PFF 2018 DYAR through Week Six I will not now nor will I ever take PFF seriously. So come at me with a real statistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: I will not now nor will I ever take PFF seriously. So come at me with a real statistic. PFF ranked Tyrod over good QBs. They can’t be trusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: I will not now nor will I ever take PFF seriously. So come at me with a real statistic. That's actually Pro Football Outsiders. I mislabeled it. Look at it any way you'd like, by statistical analysis or film via All-22 to see what each is doing with regard to NFL QB traits and skill sets that determine success or failure in the NFL. You do that and come back and objectively state that Allen has shown better. Of course you won't because the evidence isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I can't even take you seriously when you won't analyze either of the INTs and admit that neither were the fault of Rosen with one coming on a tipped ball and the other when JJ Nelson stopped his route on an anticipated throw. Rosen played a bad game on TNF, but neither of those were on him. You also looked at his stat line in his 1st start and made an assessment that was inaccurate. Get serious beyond the nonsense postings. You enjoy Nate Peterman and Josh Rosen. Its cool. What about the other 3 ints they dropped ? Embarrassing stuff 26. Thanks for replacing skydiver/foster though ?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: You enjoy Nate Peterman and Josh Rosen. Its cool. What about the other 3 ints they dropped ? Embarrassing stuff 26. Thanks for replacing skydiver/foster though ?? Yeah. I enjoy Peterman. Like I posted earlier, you can't be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I can't even take you seriously when you won't analyze either of the INTs and admit that neither were the fault of Rosen with one coming on a tipped ball and the other when JJ Nelson stopped his route on an anticipated throw. Rosen played a bad game on TNF, but neither of those were on him. You also looked at his stat line in his 1st start and made an assessment that was inaccurate. Get serious beyond the nonsense postings. The first one was on a tipped pass and unlucky but the 2nd one would probably have been picked anyway and at best been incomplete since he was staring-down Nelson the whole way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Doc said: The first one was on a tipped pass and unlucky but the 2nd one would probably have been picked anyway and at best been incomplete since he was staring-down Nelson the whole way. Not to mention three other passes that were thrown right into the hands of DB's that were dropped. He could have had 5 picks that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The first one was on a tipped pass and unlucky but the 2nd one would probably have been picked anyway and at best been incomplete since he was staring-down Nelson the whole way. It's called a hot read where he got the ball out immediately under a blitz pressure. The Broncos sent a 5 man pressure package on the play and his throw was a slant to Nelson. Your starting him down comment is not valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah. I enjoy Peterman. Like I posted earlier, you can't be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Thanks for proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Magox said: Not to mention three other passes that were thrown right into the hands of DB's that were dropped. He could have had 5 picks that game. Let me guess: those were also the fault of the receivers. And Allen's problems are all on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I can't even take you seriously when you won't analyze either of the INTs and admit that neither were the fault of Rosen with one coming on a tipped ball and the other when JJ Nelson stopped his route on an anticipated throw. Rosen played a bad game on TNF, but neither of those were on him. You also looked at his stat line in his 1st start and made an assessment that was inaccurate. Get serious beyond the nonsense postings. IIRC you never attempted to analyze Petermans int vs the Chargers in his first ever start last year. You blamed him for all the picks and still do but now have excuses for Rosen. I've also yet to see you find an excuse for Allens poor play. You can't make this stuff up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's called a hot read where he got the ball out immediately under a blitz pressure. The Broncos sent a 5 man pressure package on the play and his throw was a slant to Nelson. Your starting him down comment is not valid. Yes it was a hot read. He didn't see the safety bearing-down on Nelson. He just basically threw it to get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yes it was a hot read. He didn't see the safety bearing-down on Nelson. He just basically threw it to get rid of it. No. He threw it to a spot as designed with Nelson as the intended receiver. Rosen was shown after the play questioning Nelson about WTH he stopped. Making things up to fit a narrative. Broncos Dominate Against Turnover-Plagued Cardinals Embattled Cardinals offensive coordinator Mike McCoy can't be pleased with how the game started -- or ended -- with Arizona calling a time out just two plays in. From there, Rosen flung a pass that was tipped by Denver's Derek Wolfe into the waiting arms of linebacker Todd Davis, who rumbled 20 yards for the pick-six just 59 seconds into the affair. McCoy was seeing ghosts after Rosen subsequently whipped a late first-quarter toss into the hands of Chris Harris, Jr., who soared 53 yards for another Denver defensive score. That play saw J.J. Nelson stop on his route, a decision that cost the Cardinals early. There's nothing wrong with Rosen's arm -- or his potential. His ugly box score (21-of-39 passing for 194 yards with one TD and the three picks) was partly the result of a broken-down scheme and plenty of punishment, with the rookie visiting the medical tent after being slammed helmet-first into the turf on a second-down sack by Shaquil Barrett before the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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