Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's suspension, not wrongful termination. NFL players are released "without cause" all the time. When do they go to court after getting cut? The courts have no sympathy for players wishing they had signed a more favorable CBA. The owners are now "skittish" about the kneeling?? The owner of the Dolphins is floating 4 game suspensions for his players who kneel! Review the court's handling of the Zeke Elliot suspension. "rights" weren't taken away from players, but many things you might disagree with were willfully and unanimously bargained away by the players in the CBA. It's the conditions they bargained for and agreed to. They don't have much recourse. I'd say a drastic measure like that shows the Dolphins are skittish, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Decent article on this (link on the newsfeed here) https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/columnist/roth/2018/07/21/lesean-mccoy-news-girlfriend-delicia-cordon-buffalo-bills-nfl-suspended-pegula-beane-mcdermott/808068002/ That’s why when McDermott and Beane meet with the media for the first time in camp on Thursday, and they are asked about McCoy, predicting their response is as easy as predicting a 1,000-yard season for the Pro Bowl running back. “We’re letting the investigation play out,’’ McBeane will say. “We respect the legal process. We’ll see where this goes.’’ That’s how it should be. Everyone else can play amateur detective and crime novel writer. But the Bills, players’ union and the league can't afford to do that, and are right to take a wait-and-see posture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd say a drastic measure like that shows the Dolphins are skittish, at least. Doubling down on punishment in the face of public outcry is "skittish" of bad PR? Good one, doc. That's another very Trumpian explanation of reality. 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Decent article on this (link on the newsfeed here) https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/columnist/roth/2018/07/21/lesean-mccoy-news-girlfriend-delicia-cordon-buffalo-bills-nfl-suspended-pegula-beane-mcdermott/808068002/ That’s why when McDermott and Beane meet with the media for the first time in camp on Thursday, and they are asked about McCoy, predicting their response is as easy as predicting a 1,000-yard season for the Pro Bowl running back. “We’re letting the investigation play out,’’ McBeane will say. “We respect the legal process. We’ll see where this goes.’’ That’s how it should be. Everyone else can play amateur detective and crime novel writer. But the Bills, players’ union and the league can't afford to do that, and are right to take a wait-and-see posture. Ok I think he's just messing with us there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Hypothetical McDermott/Beane quote: “We respect the legal process. We’ll see where this goes.’’ 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Ok I think he's just messing with us there! Oh, Haha I missed that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Doubling down on punishment in the face of public outcry is "skittish" of bad PR? Good one, doc. That's another very Trumpian explanation of reality. Why else would they do it? Come on, even you in your "reality" know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Lfod said: This was what I was never clear on. If he was actually under a criminal investigation as a suspect to the crime. I figured it could be happening but never had 100% confirmation. If he is under investigation then it probably would take some time to link him if he was involved. I think the missing link is finding the guy who beat her up and stole the jewelery. Not exactly going out on a limb there. Of course the missing link between he and the incident would be the actual person that did this, IF McCoy is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Why else would they do it? Come on, even you in your "reality" know the answer. They would court even more public scorn...because they are skittish about public scorn? Wouldn't logic dictate that they would do the opposite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: They would court even more public scorn...because they are skittish about public scorn? Wouldn't logic dictate that they would do the opposite? They're more concerned with players kneeling right now because that's what they've seen. So they've instituted extreme measures. They'll deal with the possibly PR fallout from that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, Doc said: They're more concerned with players kneeling right now because that's what they've seen. So they've instituted extreme measures. They'll deal with the possibly PR fallout from that later. yeah that makes no sense. and I like the "possible fallout" part. It's happening right now. It was just in the papers and everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 OK, this is a thread about LeSean McCoy and the allegations against him, if y'all want to discuss current press coverage of the kneeling during anthem, would you mind starting another thread? Thanks... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 ..Jesus, at this rate, this "HotLanta melodrama" could eclipse Susan Lucci's 41 year run as the "Queen of Soaps"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK, this is a thread about LeSean McCoy and the allegations against him, if y'all want to discuss current press coverage of the kneeling during anthem, would you mind starting another thread? Thanks... Come on. It's entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Jesus, at this rate, this "HotLanta melodrama" could eclipse Susan Lucci's 41 year run as the "Queen of Soaps"... It might take some time, but it will likely take about as long as the Philly nightclub incident took, and in the end the result will be the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Doc said: It might take some time, but it will likely take about as long as the Philly nightclub incident took, and in the end the result will be the same. ...betcha my four cans of Sherwin Williams dry first.....I'm watchin'............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Doc said: Come on. It's entertainment. There you go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...betcha my four cans of Sherwin Williams dry first.....I'm watchin'............ Opened or closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc said: It might take some time, but it will likely take about as long as the Philly nightclub incident took, and in the end the result will be the same. I would think it would take longer, but refresh my memory --- how long did the Philly incident take to resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, Doc said: Opened or closed? ...opened of course...pretty exciting stuff........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I would think it would take longer, but refresh my memory --- how long did the Philly incident take to resolve? About 8 weeks. 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...opened of course...pretty exciting stuff........ Yee haw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: About 8 weeks. OK, so the nightclub incident featured some video, beaucoup of witnesses, Shady and his pals admitting they were there and involved, a big city PD, and still took 8 weeks. DeCordonGate features two women, an AWOL son, and a single home invader in a ski mask, and a smaller town PD (which might be more resources/case if it's a peaceful area, nothing else to do). I'm gonna say at least 6 months on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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