California (again)

[3rdnlng]

34 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I used to think that, but the reality is that there are 40M people there, and many of them simply accept this as the cost to live in CA, and others (like myself) have been there so long they don't know the difference. They joke and gripe about the high-speed rail fiasco and the water issues and fire issues. They ignore the homeless issue because most people don't leave near those tent cities, and if the tent cities start to get unruly, like the one at Angels stadium, they just sweep the area, hose it down, and the homeless find some other place to set up camp.

 

Leaving was huge for my family, and we didn't even realize how incredible it would be until after we got out. It's impossible for me to explain it.  Suffice it to say, it's incredibly enjoyable to spend time with people in space. There are no real lines to stand in, no real traffic to sit in, no people crowding us on our property, or at work, or anywhere.

 

That was a major gripe when I lived outside of LA---no matter what I did there were 100,000 other people doing the same thing. I'd go up into the San Gabriels to do a little trout fishing and it was fairly secluded there but it was a drive. I really enjoyed it when we moved to the Ventura/Santa Barbara area. Plenty of things to do and of course the weather was perfect. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

YES. NEXT QUESTION? 

 

Do Californians hate deregulation more than homelessness?

 

 

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[Pine Barrens Mafia]

On 2/22/2020 at 5:09 PM, IDBillzFan said:

 

 There are no real lines to stand in, no real traffic to sit in, no people crowding us on our property, or at work, or anywhere.

 

 

I'm looking forward to getting out of the Philadelphia area for this very reason. I despise being around people.

 

 

Maine or WNY. One of the two. I prefer WNY but I'd be happy in either place.

 

[Chef Jim]

On 2/21/2020 at 5:50 PM, IDBillzFan said:

Great article here on LA homeless problem. Worth the read. I've driven through and around this area a few times. It's breathtakingly heartbreaking. And housing is not the problem.

 

The Moral Crisis of Skid Row.

 

 

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. “But the population is very good at learning our tactics and then adapting their behaviors to counter our tactics. . . . It’s almost like a shell game, where we’re trying to do one thing today and then, three months from now, we’ll [need to] try a different tactic.”

 

When you're being outsmarted by meth heads, junkies, alcoholics and the mentally insane you're not very good at your job.  What a ***** joke.

[B-Man]

 

 

Bay Area survey: Rich, poor, young and old unhappy here. Poll: More residents now want to leave than stay.

 

 

If you’re heading to Texas, please follow Gov. Abbott’s advice:

 

 

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[Prickly Pete]

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Bay Area survey: Rich, poor, young and old unhappy here. Poll: More residents now want to leave than stay.

 

 

If you’re heading to Texas, please follow Gov. Abbott’s advice:

 

 

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Won't help.

 

Now that they've ruined California, it's on to ruining greener pastures.

 

 

 

[IDBillzFan]

4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

I'm looking forward to getting out of the Philadelphia area for this very reason. I despise being around people.

 

Maine or WNY. One of the two. I prefer WNY but I'd be happy in either place.

 

Forgive the tangent, but every week here is another "this is freaking amazing" moment.

 

Everything we need or want is less than 15-30 minutes away; lakes, mountains, grocery chains, Costco, Cabelas (Bass Pro), WalMarts, Petcos, boating, skiing, amazing restaurants, and an abundance of fresh produce and meat, most of which is grown and raised locally, and sold in the local markets, or at farmer's markets, or even online by the farms.

 

What we DON'T have, at any given time, is an unexplained wait for anything.

 

We go to Costco on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon for groceries and gas, and walk up to an empty register or open gas pump every time.  We take an on-ramp to the lone interstate highway, and people move to the left lane to let us merge EVERY FREAKING TIME? We go to the movies on a Saturday and have half the theater to ourselves. I went to the grocery store the night before Thanksgiving because I forgot something, and the place was basically empty.

 

It's like that all day, every day, and the "aha moment" is that when people are NOT stuck in lines or traffic, they're less stressed or hurried. They're friendly. They talk to you. They help you. YOU help them. 

 

It's the best life has ever been for my family.

 

 

[Chef Jim]

47 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Forgive the tangent, but every week here is another "this is freaking amazing" moment.

 

Everything we need or want is less than 15-30 minutes away; lakes, mountains, grocery chains, Costco, Cabelas (Bass Pro), WalMarts, Petcos, boating, skiing, amazing restaurants, and an abundance of fresh produce and meat, most of which is grown and raised locally, and sold in the local markets, or at farmer's markets, or even online by the farms.

 

What we DON'T have, at any given time, is an unexplained wait for anything.

 

We go to Costco on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon for groceries and gas, and walk up to an empty register or open gas pump every time.  We take an on-ramp to the lone interstate highway, and people move to the left lane to let us merge EVERY FREAKING TIME? We go to the movies on a Saturday and have half the theater to ourselves. I went to the grocery store the night before Thanksgiving because I forgot something, and the place was basically empty.

 

It's like that all day, every day, and the "aha moment" is that when people are NOT stuck in lines or traffic, they're less stressed or hurried. They're friendly. They talk to you. They help you. YOU help them. 

 

It's the best life has ever been for my family.

 

 

Yeah and I wait an hour for a loaf of bread. ?

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

Yeah and I wait an hour for a loaf of bread. ?

You don't make your own?

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

You don't make your own?

Yes in our oven in the back yard from

flour we’ve milled ourselves because the stores are

jammed packed with people and the freeways are gridlocked 24/7/365. Damn this thriving California economy. 

[IDBillzFan]

51 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Yeah and I wait an hour for a loaf of bread. ?

 

You completely missed my point, but it wasn't meant for you, anyway, because I know it's difficult, if not impossible, for you to empathize with what I'm talking about.

 

 

Truth is, CA can be perfect for someone like yourself because (a) you're really good with your money and (b) you will never have kids, which makes (a) that much better and easier, not to mention allowing you to completely ignore the CA school system and everything required for a parent to successfully raise a child in CA. 

 

But CA can be both things. My joy in leaving doesn't mean you can't have joy in staying.  Everything is relative, and I apologize if I give the impression I'm living a better life than anyone else because I left the state. I'm not living a better life than you or anyone else. I'm living a better life than me. That's all.

 

 

[B-Man]

THIS WILL END WELL: 

 

Key California reservoir to be drained due to earthquake risk.

Anderson Reservoir is owned by the Santa Clara Valley Water District, a government agency based in San Jose. When full, it holds 89,278 acre feet of water — more than all other nine dams operated by the Santa Clara Valley Water District combined.

 

In a statement Monday, Norma Camacho, the water district’s CEO said the impacts of draining the largest reservoir in Santa Clara County will be significant.

 

“With these new requirements, we expect to see an impact to groundwater basins that are replenished with water released from Anderson Reservoir, including South County and southern San Jose,” Camacho said. “Staff is already exploring other sources of water that will have to come from outside of the county. While residents have done an excellent job of conserving water since 2013, another drought during this time frame could require everyone to significantly decrease their water use.”

 

Camacho also said that draining the reservoir starting in seven months is likely to kill wildlife downstream in Coyote Creek, including endangered steel head trout, amphibians and reptiles. Coyote Creek flows from the dam through downtown San Jose to San Francisco Bay.

Complicating the issue, California may be heading into a new drought. On Monday, amid a dry winter, Anderson Reservoir was just 29% full. Nevertheless, the 26,133 acre feet of water stored there is an important part of the South Bay’s water supply — holding enough water for the annual needs of at least 130,000 people, and what the district considers an emergency supply.

 

 

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[Warren Zevon]

Is everyone in San Francisco still triggered about calling convicted felons some other buzzword term or has that bull#### passed its 15 minutes of fame?

[Wacka]

They have been talking about it his for close to a decade. 

[Chef Jim]

14 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

You completely missed my point, but it wasn't meant for you, anyway, because I know it's difficult, if not impossible, for you to empathize with what I'm talking about.

 

 

Truth is, CA can be perfect for someone like yourself because (a) you're really good with your money and (b) you will never have kids, which makes (a) that much better and easier, not to mention allowing you to completely ignore the CA school system and everything required for a parent to successfully raise a child in CA. 

 

But CA can be both things. My joy in leaving doesn't mean you can't have joy in staying.  Everything is relative, and I apologize if I give the impression I'm living a better life than anyone else because I left the state. I'm not living a better life than you or anyone else. I'm living a better life than me. That's all.

 

 

 

No my point was is you make it sound like we have massive lines to get gas and shop at Costco or that  you now have <gasp> fresh  produce or locally sourced food.  Ummm dude.  California is the leader in locally sourced food.  Every time I get gas the same thing you run into I run into.  There is ALWAYS an open gas pump, usually 3 or 4.  Maybe it's because we have 16 gas stations to every car here.  I like that.  I always find and open register at the grocery store. And I found this really cool thing. You treat people like humans they treat you as a human back. 

 

And It's also interesting that you say I missed your point.  You talked about how uncrowded it is and how easy it is to shop in ID and when I call you out and say it's not that hard to get gas and shop here you pivot and talk about raising a family there vs here.  In your two posts, the original one I quoted and the one in response to mine, you brought up two completely different things.  

[IDBillzFan]

30 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

And It's also interesting that you say I missed your point.  You talked about how uncrowded it is and how easy it is to shop in ID and when I call you out and say it's not that hard to get gas and shop here you pivot and talk about raising a family there vs here.  In your two posts, the original one I quoted and the one in response to mine, you brought up two completely different things.  

 

The initial point you missed was not specifically the crowds and the lines and the traffic. Read it again.  It was about the affect those lines and crowds and traffic have on people I saw every day at the bank, the grocery store, the post office, in my neighborhood, etc. It never dawned on me that moving to an area with barely a sliver of the CA population would lead me to a place where virtually everyone I meet is joyful, kind and helpful in their day. 

 

That's all I was pointing out. I went from a state with 40M to a state with 1.5M; from a county with 3.5M to a county with 180,000 people. Fewer people, fewer lines, lighter traffic means less stress and more joyful dispositions, far and away, from anything I thought might exist. I like being around a majority of people who are joyful.

 

(And one small correction: I didn't say all lines were long. Read it again. I said the Costco lines were long. In Yorba Linda on any given day at virtually any given time there are 50-60 cars in line for gas and the registers are 10 carts deep.)

[Chef Jim]

6 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

The initial point you missed was not specifically the crowds and the lines and the traffic. Read it again.  It was about the affect those lines and crowds and traffic have on people I saw every day at the bank, the grocery store, the post office, in my neighborhood, etc. It never dawned on me that moving to an area with barely a sliver of the CA population would lead me to a place where virtually everyone I meet is joyful, kind and helpful in their day. 

 

That's all I was pointing out. I went from a state with 40M to a state with 1.5M; from a county with 3.5M to a county with 180,000 people. Fewer people, fewer lines, lighter traffic means less stress and more joyful dispositions, far and away, from anything I thought might exist. I like being around a majority of people who are joyful.

 

(And one small correction: I didn't say all lines were long. Read it again. I said the Costco lines were long. In Yorba Linda on any given day at virtually any given time there are 50-60 cars in line for gas and the registers are 10 carts deep.)

What ***** lines you talking about??  This ain’t the 70’s oil embargo son. So you waited in line for gas at the Yorba Linda Costco?   Well don’t Buy gas there. 
 

Now care to address your point about all the fresh produce and locally sourced food?  I take it you’ve never shopped on the Bay Area. 
 

Oh BTW I’d was 85 and sunny today. ?

[KD in CA]

9 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

Is everyone in San Francisco still triggered about calling convicted felons some other buzzword term or has that bull#### passed its 15 minutes of fame?

We’re permanently triggered about almost everything here in San Francisco. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

You west coasters are so adorable. ?

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

You west coasters are so adorable. ?

And warm, tanned and surrounded by the most beautiful women in the world. ?