greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 Just look at Andrew Lucks NFL numbers, he proves the point more than any other, he's a awesome player with almost no help around him, under constant pressure with little weapons and his completion percentage was way low compared to college where he had tons of talent around him, that's Josh Allen in college in a nutshell, pocket often collapsed, no NFL level receivers catching the ball.
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 4:44 PM, Irv said: Answer his question Expand Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook.
Irv Posted April 27, 2018 Author Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, FeelingOnYouboty said: Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook. Expand That's a terrible analogy. The players on both sides of the ball: Then: Average height 6'2" Average weight 220 Average speed 4.6 Now: Average height 6'4" Average weight 240 Average speed 4.5
Buffalo716 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html Staffords college stats 57%
mannc Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 4:50 PM, phypon said: So you're saying that Allen is a HOF'er??? Please pass the magic 8 ball. Great point! Expand Your reading comprehension needs improvement.
dickleyjones Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 1:31 PM, FeelingOnYouboty said: Football has changed 8 times since then genius. Try to keep up. Expand 8 times? interesting...i have never heard that before. care to elaborate? On 4/27/2018 at 5:40 PM, Buffalo716 said: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matthew-stafford-1.html Staffords college stats 57% Expand yeah but that was 3 footballs ago
Mojo44 Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 1:49 PM, FeelingOnYouboty said: This man is so dense light bends around him Expand Of course! The eventual insult when somebody runs out of ammunition in terms of logical argument. OK, genius, tell all of us here how the importance of completion percentage is different now than it was when Kelly was our quarterback. Spell it out. Defend yourself on this point. Consider it a dare!!!
BuffaloRush Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 1:12 PM, Jay_Fixit said: Couple things.. Comparing college stats from 30 years ago is hilare. And I see a guy in Kelly who improved each year. Something Allen didn’t do.. Expand Some popular excuses why. I don’t believe these but here’s what’s been put out there: - he was playing in the “winter” elements - he lost all of his talent to the NFL - the talent last year wasn’t good - Wyoming was a run first offense and threw a lot of low percentage deep passes - not a lot of high percentage passes in his offense Did I miss any?
Putin Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 1:24 PM, mannc said: It’s directly relevant. The Anti-Allen gang contends that (1) Sub-60% completion in college equals NFL failure, and (2) QBs with poor “accuracy” (as measured by completion percentage, apparently) can never improve. The Kelly and Favre college stats seem to directly contradict both points. The burden on is on you to show why those stats don’t mean anything. Just saying “they’re old” doesn’t cut it. Expand Don’t forget Dan Marino 56%
Wiz Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) On 4/27/2018 at 5:07 PM, greeneblitz said: Just look at Andrew Lucks NFL numbers, he proves the point more than any other, he's a awesome player with almost no help around him, under constant pressure with little weapons and his completion percentage was way low compared to college where he had tons of talent around him, that's Josh Allen in college in a nutshell, pocket often collapsed, no NFL level receivers catching the ball. Expand Wyoming's rushing game was putrid. 3.2 ypc! Allen WAS their offense. RUSHING Yards Gained 1733 Yards Lost 319 Attempts 446 Average Per Attempt 3.2 Avg. Per Game 108.8 Touchdowns 13 Total 1414 Edited April 27, 2018 by Wiz
Putin Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 5:08 PM, FeelingOnYouboty said: Are you guys being purposely obtuse? Yes completion pct is calculated the same. But 1980's football is a completely different sport to 2018. You're probably one of the jokers who think Bob Cousy would match up well with Russell Westbrook. Expand How bout Magic Jonson ?
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 On 4/27/2018 at 7:13 PM, Putin said: How bout Magic Jonson ? Expand All time great but in this era he'd be a bigger John Salmons lol
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