Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 6:26 PM, Boyst62 said: What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union? Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow. Expand I expect him not to mention the memo at all tonight, and to focus on being a uniter as the left and MSM circle the wagons on their collapsing Russian Narrative (hey, there's a NEW dossier coincidentally released today that parrots Simpsons's/Ohr's... written by Clintonites and paid for with Blumenthal's money - which is partly why he was included in Grassley's memo). The left isn't done beating this dead horse. There are folks like Schiff trying to stay out of jail. It won't work though. It's just digging their hole deeper. So, I don't expect him to drop the memo until the bounce from the speech wears off (a day, two days maybe). Of course there are some out there predicting he's going to read the memo in its entirety tonight at the speech. So who knows.
row_33 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 i would enjoy the memo shown on a screen the size of a drive-in movie tonight.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 6:26 PM, Boyst62 said: What's the political play here to be tied in with the state of the union? Best I can see is Trump throws out harsh words tonight daring a Democrat response only to B word slap them with the memo tomorrow. Expand Here's your answer (supposedly): 2
row_33 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 do we get Maxine and some Kennedy to spout off between these great events?
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 6:55 PM, row_33 said: do we get Maxine and some Kennedy to spout off between these great events? Expand I think there are 5 "resist" speeches after the SOTU, but I might be behind in that count. Seems like every hour they add another person.
row_33 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 what's the prob, they wrote the hater speeches last week, hopefully Trump gives out a false olive branch tonight to make them look even worse
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 6:59 PM, row_33 said: what's the prob, they wrote the hater speeches last week, hopefully Trump gives out a false olive branch tonight to make them look even worse Expand I expect one to be offered. I also expect no one to be watching the rebuttal speeches if he really drops the memo right after the speech. Too many people will be reading that. It's another win for Trump if that's how it gets rolled out.
row_33 Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 he knows how to grab and hold an audience, especially filled with haters you have to give him that
IDBillzFan Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 7:13 PM, row_33 said: he knows how to grab and hold an audience, especially filled with haters you have to give him that Expand He's got these nutbags acting like Tony Montana playing whack-a-mole after snorting up his desk. 3
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:02 PM, LABillzFan said: He's got these nutbags acting like Tony Montana playing whack-a-mole after snorting up his desk. Expand He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen. He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him. Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception. it's been incredible to watch. You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following: Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times. I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington. 6 1
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:22 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen. He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him. Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception. it's been incredible to watch. You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following: Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times. I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington. Expand 2
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:22 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: He's probably the most politically adept person I've ever seen. He took on, and soundly defeated, two political Dynasties, both major political parties, and the Chicago political machine whike the election was being rigged against him. Then survived a coup attempt complete with massive disinformation campaign waged by our own intelligence agencies using a complicit media; and mastered a new medium of communicating directly with the public to his direct advantage even though the owners of that medium were also complicit in the deception. it's been incredible to watch. You all know my history here in regards to my positions on the President, but I am now revising those positions to say the following: Donald Trump seems to be exactly the President we needed in these times. I don't believe he was a great man at the time he entered into office, but he certainly seems to be answering History's bell, and if he continues on this arch may finish in the pantheon of leadership standing shoulder to shoulder with men like Washington. Expand The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House. He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:48 PM, GG said: The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House. He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation. Expand This is incorrect. Trump was read in on the counter-intel op over a year before his announcement to run.
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:49 PM, Deranged Rhino said: This is incorrect. Trump was read in on the counter-intel op over a year before his announcement to run. Expand So you're saying that in 2014, Trump was informed of an operation that was started in 2016?
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:51 PM, GG said: So you're saying that in 2014, Trump was informed of an operation that was started in 2016? Expand The operation did not start in 2016. This is bigger than the election. Patience.
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:51 PM, Deranged Rhino said: The operation did not start in 2016. This is bigger than the election. Patience. Expand If that is the case, you have to question the wisdom of the spooks, as Trump should have been among the last people to be informed of that in 2014.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:48 PM, GG said: Be The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House. He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation. Expand I believe that men (as in all of humankind, for the snowflakes among us) are defined by how they respond to the most important circumstances they encounter, and that doing better than people imagined they could under trying circumstances is an incredible positive. As I said, I don't believe Donald Trump was a great man when he entered office, but he's growing into that mantle.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:48 PM, GG said: The flipside of the argument is that Trump is still Trump, and it's not a coincidence that things have normalized since Kelly consolidated his position in the White House. He's done a masterful job of keeping Trump contained, who I'm convinced would have blown up the counterintel operation. Expand The man has more political savvy and straight up testicular fortitude than I imagined he had. The fact that he's pissing off the far left, the globalist elite AND the republican establishment has me sold on his presidency. If he runs for re-election, he has my vote.
GG Posted January 30, 2018 Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:54 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: I believe that men (as in all of humankind, for the snowflakes among us) are defined by how they respond to the most important circumstances they encounter, and that doing better than people imagined they could under trying circumstances is an incredible positive. As I said, I don't believe Donald Trump was a great man when he entered office, but he's growing into that mantle. Expand We shall see. So far, he's riding the wave of others, while taking all the credit.
Deranged Rhino Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/30/2018 at 9:54 PM, GG said: If that is the case, you have to question the wisdom of the spooks, as Trump should have been among the last people to be informed of that in 2014. Expand You grossly underestimate the man. That's not meant as a knock. I did the same thing. Trump was recruited by people inside Military Intelligence to run for a reason. Part of that reason is this exact perception. Which is a carefully built facade and one he has leaned into over the course of the year. Go back through his most controversial tweets over the first year in office. See how those once ridiculed tweets have aged. Then start looking at his tweets in terms of their prescience for what we know now - and what's about to come out. This whole operation could not work unless Trump was read in early. It's a VERY small circle, but Trump's inclusion is key. 1
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