BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I won't argue having a limited quarterback has handcuffed Dennison. Problem is situational playcalling has been horrific.. And a fireable offense. The 1st and goal run pass option, cmon. No option to it. Run it in. Jags were reeling. Why was Taylor given the option? And did he understand that if Benjamin is covered, air mail it out of bounds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That is definitely a valid point if he can develop a QB but, and I will use this an example... Trevor Simian greatly regressed without Dennison and I suspect that he greatly wished he still had him not that I thought simian was a franchise QB... but that Dennison was able to mask his deficiencies and make him look serviceable heck there were articles this summer about simian being the next Tom Brady lol Dennison definitely did a better job developing Simian than Vance Joseph and Mike McCoy So, you're saying that Tyrod is likely to regress next year without Dennison being his OC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: That is definitely a valid point if he can develop a QB but, and I will use this an example... Trevor Simian greatly regressed without Dennison and I suspect that he greatly wished he still had him not that I thought simian was a franchise QB... but that Dennison was able to mask his deficiencies and make him look serviceable heck there were articles this summer about simian being the next Tom Brady lol Dennison definitely did a better job developing Simian than Vance Joseph and Mike McCoy I appreciate you pointing that detail out. I had not considered that . Doesn't move my needle enough. Lynn did a better job with tyrod. tough to truly judge from over here. just my two cents. just not a believer in Dennison at this point. 3 minutes ago, BUNCH OF MULARKEY said: I won't argue having a limited quarterback has handcuffed Dennison. Problem is situational playcalling has been horrific.. And a fireable offense. The 1st and goal run pass option, cmon. No option to it. Run it in. Jags were reeling. Why was Taylor given the option? And did he understand that if Benjamin is covered, air mail it out of bounds? he still would have been called for OPI. blatant mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: I appreciate you pointing that detail out. I had not considered that . Doesn't move my needle enough. Lynn did a better job with tyrod. tough to truly judge from over here. just my two cents. just not a believer in Dennison at this point. And just to point out ... when I say "Trevor Simian greatly regressed without Dennison and I suspect that he greatly wished he still had him" i mean that Simian greatly wishes that he had Dennison , not vice versa. and to your point Lynn did do better with TT but he also had more weapons as well. we need someone who is willing to work with our talent not mold them into something they aren't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Tyrod handcuffs anything the offense wants to be able to do. It's impossible to stretch the field, he checks down more than Trent Edwards and when he does throw deep he misses the WR by a month. I believe in this staff, I do NOT believe in the QB and it's clear they don't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: And just to point out ... when I say "Trevor Simian greatly regressed without Dennison and I suspect that he greatly wished he still had him" i mean that Simian greatly wishes that he had Dennison , not vice versa. and to your point Lynn did do better with TT but he also had more weapons as well. we need someone who is willing to work with our talent not mold them into something they aren't I think our thinking runs along similar lines. I willing to guess. Creating plays for gameday all day with Taylor is no small challenge ! 1 minute ago, PaulieYayo said: Tyrod handcuffs anything the offense wants to be able to do. It's impossible to stretch the field, he checks down more than Trent Edwards and when he does throw deep he misses the WR by a month. I believe in this staff, I do NOT believe in the QB and it's clear they don't either. just wondering why it is clear that Bills do not. I have no idea either way about how they think on this. What has you sure they do not want want Taylor back next year . They could draft one and sincerely use him as the bridge QB after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Let me start by saying I hate Dennison right now and hope he's fired this week. But if McD and Beane decide they want to see how whatever new QB we bring in fits into Dennison's system since TT was clearly not the ideal fit, then I am not going to stop trusting McD. I have been fully in on the McD train since we hired him, and he's done nothing but continue to instill further confidence. Beane I am cautiously optmistic on even though I haven't agreed with all his decisions, but thats OK, no one is ever going to agree with everything one does. So no, wont waiver my faith in the regime...but that being said...PLLLLLEEEAAASSSEE FIRE RICO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I think our thinking runs along similar lines. I willing to guess. Creating plays for gameday all day with Taylor is no small challenge ! just wondering why it is clear that Bills do not. I have no idea either way about how they think on this. What has you sure they do not want want Taylor back next year . They could draft one and sincerely use him as the bridge QB after all. I think it's clear since they benched TT in favor of Peterman in the middle of a playoff push. If NP didn't implode, TT never sees the field again in a Bills uniform IMO. The play calling has been very conservative because TT just cant get his WRs the ball Edited January 9, 2018 by PaulieYayo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 If he is fired it would mean that in Tyrod’s 3 years as a starter all 3 of his OCs were fired. Bad QBs make everyone look bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said: I think it's clear since they benched TT in favor of Peterman in the middle of a playoff push. If NP didn't implode, TT never sees the field again in a Bills uniform IMO. The play calling has been very conservative because TT just cant get his WRs the ball Felt it was more a motivational move. Starting Peterman. Hoping he would do well of course, but if not? Give Tyrod full notice. and then they went back to Tyrod . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: If he is fired it would mean that in Tyrod’s 3 years as a starter all 3 of his OCs were fired. Bad QBs make everyone look bad. Lynn was fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Nope. He will hold this team back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: If he is fired it would mean that in Tyrod’s 3 years as a starter all 3 of his OCs were fired. Bad QBs make everyone look bad. why was Hackett let go? why was Roman let go? and the 3rd is Lynn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That is definitely a valid point if he can develop a QB but, and I will use this an example... Trevor Simian greatly regressed without Dennison and I suspect that he greatly wished he still had him not that I thought simian was a franchise QB... but that Dennison was able to mask his deficiencies and make him look serviceable heck there were articles this summer about simian being the next Tom Brady lol Dennison definitely did a better job developing Simian than Vance Joseph and Mike McCoy I would say Simian regressed after losing Kubiak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Lynn was fired? The bills chose not to hire him at HC and so he took a head coaching job elsewhere. I suppose fired was the wrong word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I would say Simian regressed after losing Kubiak I mean Kubiak still works for the Broncos iirc if he was the whisperer that had Simian running smoothly he would still be there helping him because he's employed by the Broncos Edited January 9, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Batman1876 said: The bills chose not to hire him at HC and so he took a head coaching job elsewhere. I suppose fired was the wrong word. In a calendar year he went from RB coach to HC. Yeah, fired was a poor description for what happened to Lynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I mean Kubiak still works for the Broncos iirc if he was the whisperer that had Simian running he should still be there helping him because he's employed by the Broncos What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: What do you mean? You don't have to be a head coach to help a player develop simian was named captain and they had high hopes for him kubiak is still employed by the Broncos in a front office role... if he was solely responsible for making Simian look good they would still have him help Simian develop he severely regressed this year. But he looked serviceable with Dennison as OC Edited January 9, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: In a calendar year he went from RB coach to HC. Yeah, fired was a poor description for what happened to Lynn. Regardless of if he would have gotten a he’d coaching gig or not the Bills were going to fire him, I’m glad he got an offer but he had his last day in Buffalo as soon as McD was hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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