bobobonators Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) He's had seasons where he's been elite, surrounded by seasons where he has been average. He has been wildly inconsistent. Yet he is a two time Super Bowl champ who won his first on a once in a lifetime catch that happened again several years later. He'll be in the HOF, but upon closer analysis he's had one of the strangest HOF QB careers.Yeh I agree. His HOF ballot is going to be interesting. He certainly has compiled some numbers and what helps him most are the SB performances. But in an era with Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, Even when Eli was in his prime, he was never better than those. Then throw in Big Ben, Matt Ryan, Stafford. Etc. But he does have the hardware though. Cant take that away from him. Edited September 19, 2017 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I mean he performed when it mattered most, not sure you can say luckiest ever.Freaking Bills fans. If a Bills quarterback twice beat anyone in the Super Bowl -- let alone ruined Tom Brady*s perfect season in the process -- some fans would be lined up on their knees outside the QB's house wearing a bib with their mouths open while getting his name tatooed on their ass. But Eli Manning was lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Freaking Bills fans. If a Bills quarterback twice beat anyone in the Super Bowl -- let alone ruined Tom Brady*s perfect season in the process -- some fans would be lined up on their knees outside the QB's house wearing a bib with their mouths open while getting his name tatooed on their ass. But Eli Manning was lucky. Lol i didnt say he was lucky. But yeh i agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ansah looks healthy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Detroit is a good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just saw the Agnew punt return TD. At least the punter is alright @bwing38 Ankles are good. Close call, thought both were broken for a second there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 except probably 8 teams, OL play in this league has to be below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Freaking Bills fans. If a Bills quarterback twice beat anyone in the Super Bowl -- let alone ruined Tom Brady*s perfect season in the process -- some fans would be lined up on their knees outside the QB's house wearing a bib with their mouths open while getting his name tatooed on their ass. But Eli Manning was lucky. You're right, we would worship him. No need to do the whole "BIlls fans are dumb" schtick though. He will always have the two titles, and Giants fans will love him. However, he's an above average QB who has been wildly inconsistent. His actual play does not indicate two Super Bowl champ. He caught a few breaks with some amazing defensive teams. He also performed well at the biggest moments. If Tyree and Manningham don't make insane catches, he doesn't have a ring. I'm not the first person in the world to make these statements. Therefore it isn't a Bills fan problem. He certainly doesn't compare to the modern greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 You're right, we would worship him. No need to do the whole "BIlls fans are dumb" schtick though. I didn't accuse anyone of being dumb regarding Eli. Just unrealistic. Two Super Bowls. Against the Pats* no less. That's a lot of things, but lucky isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Detroit is a good team. They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I didn't accuse anyone of being dumb regarding Eli. Just unrealistic. Two Super Bowls. Against the Pats* no less. That's a lot of things, but lucky isn't one of them. Yes, but there is more to a football team than just QB. Brady was subpar in both of those games. Eli didn't win those titles on his own. For a two time champion QB, he is wildly inconsistent. There have always been QB's in the league better than him, yet he has more titles than many of those guys. That does take a bit of good fortune. I'm not saying that you are incorrect. I just feel that Eli is fortunate to have won those two Super Bowls. Without those titles, his legacy would be much different. I don't mean to say that Eli is a bad QB, I just mean that he is not a HOF QB without those titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Eli's HC completely threw him under the bus for this loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Eli's HC completely threw him under the bus for this loss ahah. Did he? That one INT Eli threw on the first play after the Giants got a strip fumble on Stafford may have been the turning point with momentum. That was a brutal pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Without those titles, his legacy would be much different. I don't mean to say that Eli is a bad QB, I just mean that he is not a HOF QB without those titles. And without last weekend, the Bills are undefeated. I don't mean to say Eli is a HOF quarterback. I just mean he didn't win two SBs based on luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 should be the 35 of the receiving team They gave the receiving team the ball on the kicking team's 45. They moved it a few times. Tirico had no idea where it should go and confusedly announced each placement. Gruden said nothing at all during the minute and then announced they got it right, he didn't have a clue either. So what is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 so it's 30 yards added on to the spot where the ball went out of bounds, i guess. i didn't really care all that much about the game and it looked strange when they enforced it to the 45 of the kicking team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hmmm maybe the 35 of the receiving team is only in college ahah. Did he? That one INT Eli threw on the first play after the Giants got a strip fumble on Stafford may have been the turning point with momentum. That was a brutal pass. https://t.co/lrf0APIslv?amp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 And without last weekend, the Bills are undefeated. I don't mean to say Eli is a HOF quarterback. I just mean he didn't win two SBs based on luck. I think that he is a HOF QB. He plays in NY and beat the Pats dynasty twice. That's why I call him lucky. There is no other way that he'd be a HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think that he is a HOF QB. He plays in NY and beat the Pats dynasty twice. That's why I call him lucky. There is no other way that he'd be a HOFer. Eli knows that a blind long throw can pay more dividends than bad results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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