Bleeding Bills Blue Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) I get to play the devils advocate and be the lone wolf here, I don't mind the signing, and I like his height, and that he's been a healthy contributor, but I'm also not buying the off season hype, IMO he's a solid legit NFL #4 WR, and by getting signed with team with WR issues he has a rare opportunity to get more snaps than he should Besides, there's a reason the Raiders went out and got two better WR's and allowed him to slip on the 4th on the depth chart, and then didn't try to re-sign him, and there's a reason why we tried to sign Macklin, because neither our Bills or Raiders see him as anything more than he is, depth not a starter, regardless of coach speak and fan, media, and Bills app camp hype If he can replicate Hogan's old production I'll be thrilled, but I am not expecting much more, sure I don't disagree than any NFL player can play beyond expectations if given a chance, I'm still not buying the projection that Holmes is anything more than a solid 4th, sorry, and I'm betting he's not even on our roster come 2020 jc For the most part I agree. I also think he was a victim of circumstances with Oakland. They brought in their rookie QB, and whats the best way to improve one - oline and WRs. They used a ton of money to build the line, and then signed crabtree and Cooper fell right to them. If they don't sign Crabtree - he probably starts the last 2 years. If they don't draft cooper - same thing. Worked out well for us - in any case. He's super cheap. If hes good - great. If hes not - hes gone. Edited June 20, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I get to play the devils advocate and be the lone wolf here, I don't mind the signing, and I like his height, and that he's been a healthy contributor, but I'm also not buying the off season hype, IMO he's a solid legit NFL #4 WR, and by getting signed with team with WR issues he has a rare opportunity to get more snaps than he should Besides, there's a reason the Raiders went out and got two better WR's and allowed him to slip on the 4th on the depth chart, and then didn't try to re-sign him, and there's a reason why we tried to sign Macklin, because neither our Bills or Raiders see him as anything more than he is, depth not a starter, regardless of coach speak and fan, media, and Bills app camp hype If he can replicate Hogan's old production I'll be thrilled, but I am not expecting much more, sure I don't disagree than any NFL player can play beyond expectations if given a chance, I'm still not buying the projection that Holmes is anything more than a solid 4th, sorry, and I'm betting he's not even on our roster come 2020 jc Holmes isn't a top-2 WR. Hence the reason the Raiders went out and got them. But his production can match what the Bills lost with their previous #2 WR in Robert Woods. Hopefully Zay Jones becomes a true #2 WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I get to play the devils advocate and be the lone wolf here, I don't mind the signing, and I like his height, and that he's been a healthy contributor, but I'm also not buying the off season hype, IMO he's a solid legit NFL #4 WR, and by getting signed with team with WR issues he has a rare opportunity to get more snaps than he should Besides, there's a reason the Raiders went out and got two better WR's and allowed him to slip on the 4th on the depth chart, and then didn't try to re-sign him, and there's a reason why we tried to sign Macklin, because neither our Bills or Raiders see him as anything more than he is, depth not a starter, regardless of coach speak and fan, media, and Bills app camp hype If he can replicate Hogan's old production I'll be thrilled, but I am not expecting much more, sure I don't disagree than any NFL player can play beyond expectations if given a chance, I'm still not buying the projection that Holmes is anything more than a solid 4th, sorry, and I'm betting he's not even on our roster come 2020 jc I think Holmes can be a very good number 3 guy...... The important thing to remember is it really is all about Sammy Watkins......if this guy is a stud for us like he is SUPPOSED to be then the trickle down effect through the rest of the wide receiver core should be really really evident........Zay will get a lot of catches because he is a production machine......Holmes will look good because he is not double covered......and veteran guys like Phili Brown or Tate end up making plays as well because they are the "im not the focus of the offense" thing going. Its all about Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Holmes isn't a top-2 WR. Hence the reason the Raiders went out and got them. But his production can match what the Bills lost with their previous #2 WR in Robert Woods. Hopefully Zay Jones becomes a true #2 WR. I think Holmes can be a very good number 3 guy...... The important thing to remember is it really is all about Sammy Watkins......if this guy is a stud for us like he is SUPPOSED to be then the trickle down effect through the rest of the wide receiver core should be really really evident........Zay will get a lot of catches because he is a production machine......Holmes will look good because he is not double covered......and veteran guys like Phili Brown or Tate end up making plays as well because they are the "im not the focus of the offense" thing going. Its all about Sammy Strong points and I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 For our amusement? No. To make it seem like we are fine without Maclin and him going elsewhere isn't a loss? Yes. Well that's conjecture on your part at minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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