jimmy10 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 The big-time memorabilia business seems shady as hell. I'm sure there's a lot more to this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 ...and it looks like there was a similar lawsuit involving Manning and Steiner sports three years ago. Or is this the same lawsuit? https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2014/01/30/eli-and-giants-created-fake-memorabilia-suit/amp/ If the authentication process just involves Steiner asking Manning "hey, these are legit, right?" I'm not sure I'd be willing to drop major bucks on any of that stuff. But apparently enough bridge-and-tunnel ham-and-eggers from Paramus fall for it to make the business so lucrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Technically the equipment should be owned by team, correct? The team paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure I understand the concept of selling game-used helmets. Aren't the players required to keep the same helmet throughout the year, and as long as possible? I thought there were safety rules in place that require that once a helmet is deemed safe, and broken in, it's to be used for as long as possible to avoid increasing the odds of injury due to a faulty helmet. I thought these rules were what prevent teams from having throwback or alternate uniforms that include helmets that differ in color from the standard uniform's helmets. All that said, who really cares? Since I was like, 5 years old, I've understood (or assumed) that anything purchased as "game worn" could be anything from worn during live action, to strapped on for 5 seconds and tossed to the side, to used in practice (yes- I understand that "practice worn" is patently different than "game worn"). Figured the whole point was to rip people off. Edited April 17, 2017 by BringBackFlutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) How much of a whore do the mannings have to be? it's easy cash that keeps earning every time the commercial is shown. you'd be a fool not to do it. Edited April 17, 2017 by teef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I know. I always preface this situation with accepting responsibility that I effed up. With that said you are not the only one that was absolutely shocked to hear about the extensive involvement, in time, money and resources that homeland security spent on my situation with counterfeit jerseys. Who would have ever thought that the department that was formed to protect Americans from what happened on 9/11 would be policing intellectual property rights for a multibillion corporation, on their own dime. Once again, I made a mistake and learned from that mistake, but the entire experience was very eye opening. What were you doing? Running a site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Sure is it signed "Tayrod" with letter of authentication? Whatever you'd like Edited April 17, 2017 by Tenhigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 "Two helmets that can pass as game used." I am not defending Eli, I don't know what his intent was, but how can this be a "smoking gun?" How can this conclude guilt? Why assume this is negative? Glass half-empty. Can't the above mean that his intent was just looking for two helmets tha can pass as game used? Look @ this as a glass half-full. He was looking for two pieces of equipment that could pass as of being game used. SIMPLE. Maybe he was just being honest and wanted to find game used equipment. Kind of like: "I shot the Sheriff but didn't shoot the deputy." Why does everybody think he didn't shoot Barney Fife, but shot Andy Taylor. No. Only one man here. A sheriff should be a DEPUTY of the law. He shot a man, but not a "deputy of the law" and if he is guilty (in the eyes of God) he will pay! Okay bad... But it shows you how different a few simple words, punctuation could make something mean. Like: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/3-punctuation-mistakes-that-can-make-you-look-like-a-cannibal/ 1. Eat your dinner. vs Eat. Youre dinner. Normal: Eat your dinner. Cannibalistic: Eat. Youre dinner. 2. Lets eat, Grandma. vs. Lets eat Grandma. Normal: Lets eat, Grandma. Cannibalistic: Lets eat Grandma. 3. I love cooking, my dogs, and my family. vs. I love cooking my dogs and my family. Normal: I love cooking, my dogs, and my family. Cannibalistic: I love cooking my dogs and my family. Kinda same here. "Hey can you find me two helmets that can pass as game used." He's looking for two helmets that are game used and meet the criteria. Big deal. Why are people assuming the worse, that he is cheating somebody. He never said: "Hey, can you find me two helmets that we can pass OFF as game used." Instead: "...can pass as game used." "Pass as" vs. "Pass off as." One shows less to zero negative intent than the other (later). We are so negative assuming that somebody is cheating somebody else. "Assuming intent" is just what it is. Again, maybe he was just being honest. "Hey, find me two game used helmets. You know, two that are game used and meet the standards. Meaning ones that can pass, whatever that standard is. Can it be one play?" Can it be ones that I only wore on sideline, fit bad and they brought me other ones? We automatically assume the worse, why not the best? I am posting between Noon & 15:00 on Good Friday, I am gonna go to hell? Should I be praying and reflecting about all the selfish negativity out there. ;-) I think for Lent you should give up your common sense. Let someone else have it, for God's Sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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