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46 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

The first name that popped up in my head was Mike Schmidt.

 

Yup, that's the era. Only third baseman to win back to back MVP's!

 

Greg Lusinski was another lesser known great from those teams.

 

And who can forget: "Water covers two thirds of the earth...Garry Maddox covers the rest!"

 

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15 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Yup, that's the era. Only third baseman to win back to back MVP's!

 

Greg Lusinski was another lesser known great from those teams.

 

And who can forget: "Water covers two thirds of the earth...Garry Maddox covers the rest!"

 

How could I forget about the "Bull",since I am polish.I remember the days of that old division well. We played on horrible plastic carpets in Montreal,Philadelphia,Pittsburgh and I think the Cardinals.I'll bet a lot of former players have arthritis these days..they were basically playing on concrete.

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22 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

How about this guy.  Maybe not you guys but I imagine the average baseball forgot he was a Met at one point.  

 

 

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Holy crap. I wish I could say I forgot that, but Bowa as a Met didn't even register and I had to google.

 

Bob Boone was a decent catcher for those Phillies teams and brought us Bret and Aaron. 

 

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8 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Holy crap. I wish I could say I forgot that, but Bowa as a Met didn't even register and I had to google.

 

Bob Boone was a decent catcher for those Phillies teams and brought us Bret and Aaron. 

 

There were a lot of notable players that spent time with the Mets and Phillies when you think about it:

 

Nails

Roger McDowell

Wally Backman

Pedro Martinez

Bobby Abreu

Rico Brogna

 

Im sure I’m missing some 

 

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1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

There were a lot of notable players that spent time with the Mets and Phillies when you think about it:

 

Nails

Roger McDowell

Wally Backman

Pedro Martinez

Bobby Abreu

Rico Brogna

 

Im sure I’m missing some 

 

 

Rico Brogna! Nice.

 

But how could you forget Dykstra? :) And then you have to include Juan Samuel.

 

For the old folks: Del Unser and Mac Scarce (and no, I didn't make that name up)

 

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6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Rico Brogna! Nice.

 

But how could you forget Dykstra? :) And then you have to include Juan Samuel.

 

For the old folks: Del Unser and Mac Scarce (and no, I didn't make that name up)

 

Well that’s who I meant by Nails lol

 

A bit of trivia, Rico hit the first HR in Coors Field when he played on the Mets 

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3 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Complete game (including a rain delay), 0 earned runs and he's finally over .500. The season Jacob is having is remarkable. I'm happy for his individual success, seems like a great guy. A great competitor without the attitude.

 

Lets Go Mets.

 

He deserves the Cy Young.  With some run support, he'd be running away with it.  I still think, if he keeps this up, that he'll win it.

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18 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He deserves the Cy Young.  With some run support, he'd be running away with it.  I still think, if he keeps this up, that he'll win it.

 

IMO, if the season ended last week he deserved it. Yankee game and today just added to my opinion. But with 6 weeks left a lot can happen. Scherzer and Nola are crushing it too. Jacob's ERA will need to continue to be much better to win it. Right now its 1.71/2.11/2.24. If that tightens up or Scherzer/Nola have big games in big spots it will be a tougher sell to give it to a guy on a bad team.

 

 

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Just now, SinceThe70s said:

 

IMO, if the season ended last week he deserved it. Yankee game and today just added to my opinion. But with 6 weeks left a lot can happen. Scherzer and Nola are crushing it too. Jacob's ERA will need to continue to be much better to win it. Right now its 1.71/2.11/2.24. If that tightens up or Scherzer/Nola have big games in big spots it will be a tougher sell to give it to a guy on a bad team.

 

 

 

I was listening to the game on the radio.  They said that Jason Vargas would have to pitch 188 consecutive scoreless innings in order to reach deGrom's ERA.

 

That is !@#$ing hilarious.  I love stats like that.

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Just now, Gugny said:

 

I was listening to the game on the radio.  They said that Jason Vargas would have to pitch 188 consecutive scoreless innings in order to reach deGrom's ERA.

 

That is !@#$ing hilarious.  I love stats like that.

 

That's great.

 

During the telecast they mentioned that Arietta gave up more runs in his 7 losses then DeGrom has given up all year.

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How many years have they been playing this Wiliamsport game? It was new to me, what a cool idea. Best part was hearing the crack of the bat.

 

And maybe I should head over to PPP but this cracked me up. I was asking my youngest which Little League team was sitting behind home plate and he told me it was Mexico. I  wondered out loud why they got so lucky and he told me it was probably because Trump would "shoo them away" afterward. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

How many years have they been playing this Wiliamsport game? It was new to me, what a cool idea. Best part was hearing the crack of the bat.

 

And maybe I should head over to PPP but this cracked me up. I was asking my youngest which Little League team was sitting behind home plate and he told me it was Mexico. I  wondered out loud why they got so lucky and he told me it was probably because Trump would "shoo them away" afterward. 

 

 

Your boys must be loving "Big Al".That kid is a classic...players from both sides were tracking him down for a "rap". "Hi,my name is Big Al and I hit dingers".Yeah,baby!

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I came across the following this morning and thought it was pretty good. The main theme is Hall of Fame players with a get off my lawn mentality about the current state of baseball. It's definitely a one-sided article, could've used more perspective from the analytics folks, but ironically the writer uses stats throughout.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791455-i-find-it-very-difficult-to-watch-why-mlb-greats-think-baseballs-in-trouble?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

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3 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

I came across the following this morning and thought it was pretty good. The main theme is Hall of Fame players with a get off my lawn mentality about the current state of baseball. It's definitely a one-sided article, could've used more perspective from the analytics folks, but ironically the writer uses stats throughout.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791455-i-find-it-very-difficult-to-watch-why-mlb-greats-think-baseballs-in-trouble?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

That was a sad article to read and it's full of animosity for the most part. We have pitchers going 5 per on 7 yr 200 million dollar contracts.Those pitchers in the article went a average of 7/8 for far less money..and that bothers them. People complained about the length of the games..so they cut down mound visits and widened the strike zone...but yet,players like Moronta can bend over to toss the rosin bag around before and after every pitch...it's a no win situation,imo.After a beautiful Sunday night game in Williamsport i was as high as a kite about the game...I'm a bit bitter after reading that..but there is some truth in it. P.S.- We have had more open seats than ever,because tanking is now acceptable...take a look at the numbers,would you pay $75 bucks to go see the Orioles,Rangers etc play? Also...bring back the Saturday afternoon games,years ago the schedule was full of those...now you might see a game or two on the schedule.Things are fixable.

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6 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

That was a sad article to read and it's full of animosity for the most part. We have pitchers going 5 per on 7 yr 200 million dollar contracts.Those pitchers in the article went a average of 7/8 for far less money..and that bothers them. People complained about the length of the games..so they cut down mound visits and widened the strike zone...but yet,players like Moronta can bend over to toss the rosin bag around before and after every pitch...it's a no win situation,imo.After a beautiful Sunday night game in Williamsport i was as high as a kite about the game...I'm a bit bitter after reading that..but there is some truth in it. P.S.- We have had more open seats than ever,because tanking is now acceptable...take a look at the numbers,would you pay $75 bucks to go see the Orioles,Rangers etc play? Also...bring back the Saturday afternoon games,years ago the schedule was full of those...now you might see a game or two on the schedule.Things are fixable.

 

Didn't mean to bring you down! There's a lot I agree with in the article, some I don't, but I still watch nearly every night. 

 

 In an attempt to get that good feeling back, me and the fam' just shared a good laugh about the Steve Lyons incident. Even wifey laughed out loud: 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

There’s a general lack of personality today as well with most players.  Partially because of the Hungarian ancestry but this guy was my fave

 

 

 

That was great, I've never seen that!

 

But I did see the Mad Hungarian at Shea when he was with the Cardinals. My father hated his act, I thought it was pretty cool.

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Seeing the Nats as bigger sellers than the Mets brings me joy.  I wish the best for Murph.  Now I can root for him.

 

Nice win tonight.  Clutch hitting.  Nice fielding.  Good win.

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I'm beginning to think Borenstein's days in the organization are numbered.His age might be the issue but damn how do you leave a power hitter unprotected? P.J. Conlon is not MLB material...how easy they could knock him off the 40 man next week...Borenstein paid his dues and deserves to be on the large roster by September 1st.

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19 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Smith did a nice job last night.  Hit a dinger.  Solid defense at first.

 

So, naturally .... Callaway sits him today.

 

I just don't understand this !@#$.

 

He did him a favor sitting him against Bumgarner. Mets scored one earned run against Bumgarner today. That raised Bumgarners ERA at CitiField. Before the game it was below 0.50. Batting Wilmer against the lefty was a no brainer.

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Just now, SinceThe70s said:

 

He did him a favor sitting him against Bumgarner. Mets scored one earned run against Bumgarner today. That raised Bumgarners ERA at CitiField. Before the game it was below 0.50. Batting Wilmer against the lefty was a no brainer.

 

I respectfully disagree.

 

I like keeping Flores in the lineup as much as possible.  But Dom Smith has shown a little something lately.  Constantly changing the lineup based on analytics is a disaster.  It's a big reason this team is 15+ games out right now.


If that's how we want to manage, save the salary and put a !@#$ing PC in the dugout and the players can manage themselves.

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12 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I respectfully disagree.

 

I like keeping Flores in the lineup as much as possible.  But Dom Smith has shown a little something lately.  Constantly changing the lineup based on analytics is a disaster.  It's a big reason this team is 15+ games out right now.


If that's how we want to manage, save the salary and put a !@#$ing PC in the dugout and the players can manage themselves.

 

Fair enough, I'll take back my no brainer comment. I can agree that you shouldn't change the lineup on a daily basis solely on metrics. But I still wouldn't put Dom Smith up against Bumgarner and leave the guy that hits the lefties better than anyone else on the team on the bench. I get how that's analytics based, but I also see it as good sense. Plus I still have no use for Dom Smith.

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11 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Fair enough, I'll take back my no brainer comment. I can agree that you shouldn't change the lineup on a daily basis solely on metrics. But I still wouldn't put Dom Smith up against Bumgarner and leave the guy that hits the lefties better than anyone else on the team on the bench. I get how that's analytics based, but I also see it as good sense. Plus I still have no use for Dom Smith.

 

He should have been playing every day as soon as it was clear the Mets were going nowhere and that Alonso was off limits.  McNeil should have been called up sooner.  Rosario should have 150 games in at least this year.  And Flores should have been at third all year.

 

Let these young guys get some experience instead of throwing Todd !@#$ing Frazier and Bautista out there.  And Heaven forbid Wright plays. 

 

Most poorly managed team since Willie's **** tenure.

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1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

He should have been playing every day as soon as it was clear the Mets were going nowhere and that Alonso was off limits.  McNeil should have been called up sooner.  Rosario should have 150 games in at least this year.  And Flores should have been at third all year.

 

Let these young guys get some experience instead of throwing Todd !@#$ing Frazier and Bautista out there.  And Heaven forbid Wright plays. 

 

Most poorly managed team since Willie's **** tenure.

 

Agreed that Dom should have been playing first since the last call up (regardless what I think of him). Felt bad about the LF mishap the other night. Not fair to have him learning a new position at the major league level.

 

But I like the way they've handled Rosario. He's played the lions share of games and has gotten better as the season progressed. I see nothing to complain about with him, he was pretty bad at the plate early on.

 

Didn't McNeil start the season at AA? He's hitting great, no guarantee that happened if they called him up sooner. Plus he still looks raw at 2B. I was just reading today how they dicked around with him in the minors playing him at 2b, 3b and OF.

 

I also agree wrt to the Bautista, Frazier, Bruce, Wright logjam. Throw in Cespedes and I just don't know how they construct a team for next year with some of those guys still around.

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29 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

Haven't been really paying too much attention these past few weeks.  Still it looks like the wheels haven't come off the team.  They won last night I see 3-0.

Well...they didn't go balls to the wall before the deadline,keeping Wheeler was key.I'm happy to finally see both Frazier and Bruce back to 100%....if Smith didn't piss off Mick in ST,he'd be seeing more playing time with the big club.Once the roster goes up in numbers next week...look for Smith to play both Right,Left and first....my train of thought suggests he will be showcased for a sale.4 pm start today...

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1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Watched some of today's game.  It's now 9-0.

 

I am glad football season is here in a few weeks

The 8th inning comedy show was tough to watch.Get back to watching..it sounds like Alonso is going to see some playing time after the roster expansion.

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1 hour ago, Another Fan said:

Watched some of today's game.  It's now 9-0.

 

I am glad football season is here in a few weeks

 

3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

The 8th inning comedy show was tough to watch.Get back to watching..it sounds like Alonso is going to see some playing time after the roster expansion.

 

I just got home from the game. I actually gave the fam the option of leaving after the 8th but nobody bit. The final indignity was the Nat's pitcher getting hurt after the 2nd out in the bottom of the 9th and we had to wait while they carted him off the field.

 

On the plus side, Matz looked great.

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3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

I just got home from the game. I actually gave the fam the option of leaving after the 8th but nobody bit. The final indignity was the Nat's pitcher getting hurt after the 2nd out in the bottom of the 9th and we had to wait while they carted him off the field.

 

On the plus side, Matz looked great.

I guess the one positive to that is I'd assume if you were home you'd be watching the Bills game.

 

Its been awful so far

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1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

I just got home from the game. I actually gave the fam the option of leaving after the 8th but nobody bit. The final indignity was the Nat's pitcher getting hurt after the 2nd out in the bottom of the 9th and we had to wait while they carted him off the field.

 

On the plus side, Matz looked great.

My brother was at the game as well.This is the first time in many years that I have not attended one,including the Toronto game on the 4th of July,since i'm getting old,grumpy and tired.I really hope to hit up Fla next spring for a couple weeks of ST games.

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