GG Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: No. No he’s not. He’s genuine. Hillary is a demagogue. At least you're consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You are watching checks and balances eviserate a dangerous authoritarian. Honestly... The man is corrupt and unfit. Simply remove him and move on. Admit, He's the wrong answer for America. Hilarious you talk about echo chambers then say this - of which there is no evidence to support any of it. Dangerous authoritarians work to consolidate their power. Trump has worked to decentralize federal power. You're wrong. And spewing emotional talking points that align with your chosen echo chamber. Sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: At least you're consistent. Note im not defending Trump. I’m arguing your definition of the word. Trump is genuine. Hitler was genuine. FDR was more of a demagogue than Hitler — but clearly I’m an FDR fan whereas I am not a Hitler fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: Note im not defending Trump. I’m arguing your definition of the word. Trump is genuine. Hitler was genuine. FDR was more of a demagogue than Hitler — but clearly I’m an FDR fan whereas I am not a Hitler fan. First definition that Googlebot brings up is a perfect definition of Trump (and most other populists) a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 And yet... the story lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You don't know if Trump won because of Putin. Why would you even say that? The real question is why Putin helped is helping him? Your "Whataboutism" on Clinton foundation is silly. You hit a "whataboutism, a distracting question and an unprovable fact all in one post!! Nice job, you Trump lover. "Whataboutism" is the left's new favorite word. It means you have effectively pointed out that they are completely full of sh!t and they have no answer for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Swill Merchant said: "Whataboutism" is the left's new favorite word. It means you have effectively pointed out that they are completely full of sh!t and they have no answer for it. No, it's just a simple minded attempt to change the subject. Trump being compromised by murderer Putin has nothing at all to do with the person Conservatives have been conditioned to have an emotional reaction to, namely Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: No, it's just a simple minded attempt to change the subject. Trump being compromised by murderer Putin has nothing at all to do with the person Conservatives have been conditioned to have an emotional reaction to, namely Hillary. It does when the claims (without evidence) of said compromise originates from political opposition research paid for by Clinton and which relied upon Putin's intelligence officers feeding a middle man dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Hilarious you talk about echo chambers then say this - of which there is no evidence to support any of it. Dangerous authoritarians work to consolidate their power. Trump has worked to decentralize federal power. You're wrong. And spewing emotional talking points that align with your chosen echo chamber. Sad. Not HIS federal power. You're off your rocker. If Trump was so hell bent on doing what you say, he'd respect the checks and balances built into the Constitution. Trump is Tito in Yugoslavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It does when the claims (without evidence) of said compromise originates from political opposition research paid for by Clinton and which relied upon Putin's intelligence officers feeding a middle man dirt. The Senate report was bipartisan and you keep claiming all this bias about Trump's Russia problems, but no one made him tell all those lies. Why did Trump lie so much about Russia? Why is Putin helping Trump? Why would he do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: If Trump was so hell bent on doing what you say, he'd respect the checks and balances built into the Constitution. How is he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: How is he not? Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump: "Remember, Michael Cohen only became a “Rat” after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkable & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started. They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE! Why didn’t they break into the DNC to get the Server, or Crooked’s office?" Andy McCarthy✔@AndrewCMcCarthy: "Sir, in mobster lingo, a ‘rat’ is a witness who tells prosecutors real incriminating info. Perhaps a different word? Searches of lawyer’s offices common enough that DOJ has a procedure for them. Here it yielded evidence of crimes you said he should be jailed for. You should stop." Edited December 17, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Not HIS federal power. Yes. His federal power has been greatly decentralized in his first two years from where Obama left it. Your theory is wrong on every level, including the lack of evidence to support it. Authoritarian dictators do not give up their power, they strengthen it. And there's zero evidence to support treason/collusion/or that he's a dictator in waiting. You're pushing a baseless conspiracy theory because you've been brainwashed by known liars and perjurers into believing that anyone who dares to think differently from the establishment DC foreign policy agenda must never be allowed to hold power... that's what this has always been about, and your failure to understand that is why you're so lost on this subject. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, GG said: First definition that Googlebot brings up is a perfect definition of Trump (and most other populists) a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. The bolded is why I claim he's not. I mean he lost the popular vote due to his ideas. Many of his ideas are NOT popular which is why he receives the constant backlash. But, I concede that the man NEVER uses a rational argument. But I think it's because he's incapable of such a thing. Listening to him talk is like watching a squirrel cross the road. Ya never can follow or guess his direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Yes. His federal power has been greatly decentralized in his first two years from where Obama left it. Your theory is wrong on every level, including the lack of evidence to support it. Authoritarian dictators do not give up their power, they strengthen it. And there's zero evidence to support treason/collusion/or that he's a dictator in waiting. You're pushing a baseless conspiracy theory because you've been brainwashed by known liars and perjurers into believing that anyone who dares to think differently from the establishment DC foreign policy agenda must never be allowed to hold power... that's what this has always been about, and your failure to understand that is why you're so lost on this subject. LoL... A conspiracy theorist is calling me a conspiracy theorist... Thanks... It's time for me to step away from the podium. Step away very slowly and carefully. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: LoL... A conspiracy theorist is calling me a conspiracy theorist... Thanks... It's time for me to step away from the podium. Step away very slowly and carefully. ? Show me evidence of collusion. If you have none, which you don't because none exists, you are a "conspiracy theorist" - blindly believing a story told to you by others with zero evidence, and completely unwilling or unable to engage with any evidence that runs counter to your preformed conclusions. All you're proving is that you're uninformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And there's zero evidence to support treason/collusion/or that he's a dictator in waiting. All the lies? That's evidence. Always has been and always will be. How are lies not evidence of wrong doing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Show me evidence of collusion. If you have none, which you don't because none exists, you are a "conspiracy theorist" - blindly believing a story told to you by others with zero evidence, and completely unwilling or unable to engage with any evidence that runs counter to your preformed conclusions. All you're proving is that you're uninformed. So you the earth is round too? You a flat earther? How the hell am I going to get evidence. We will have to wait for the Mueller Report. But you have the inside story. Slow down grasshopper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump: "Remember, Michael Cohen only became a “Rat” after the FBI did something which was absolutely unthinkable & unheard of until the Witch Hunt was illegally started. They BROKE INTO AN ATTORNEY’S OFFICE! Why didn’t they break into the DNC to get the Server, or Crooked’s office?" Andy McCarthy✔@AndrewCMcCarthy: "Sir, in mobster lingo, a ‘rat’ is a witness who tells prosecutors real incriminating info. Perhaps a different word? Searches of lawyer’s offices common enough that DOJ has a procedure for them. Here it yielded evidence of crimes you said he should be jailed for. You should stop." McCarthy's tweet represents neither a check nor a balance on the presidency. Nor does the FBI raiding Cohen's office. Try again. Use the big hint I just gave you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: All the lies? That's evidence. Always has been and always will be. How are lies not evidence of wrong doing? Greggy wants to see that the earth is round. How about we launch him into space! /smh Just now, DC Tom said: McCarthy's tweet represents neither a check nor a balance on the presidency. Nor does the FBI raiding Cohen's office. Try again. Use the big hint I just gave you... Stop being purposely obtuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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