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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Never give up, Gary. The next month is going to be a joy to watch you melt down.

 

Well... if you were honest of course. But you're not. 

 

If it results in as you say, the #Resistance will just interpret it as reinforcement of their belief that the system is corrupted beyond recovery by the Nazis.  And rather than act accordingly, they'll just scream louder at the sky.

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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

If it results in as you say, the #Resistance will just interpret it as reinforcement of their belief that the system is corrupted beyond recovery by the Nazis.  And rather than act accordingly, they'll just scream louder at the sky.

 

That's where the funny part comes in. 

 

But the indictments and prosecutions will break the illusion for many. 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That's where the funny part comes in. 

 

But the indictments and prosecutions will break the illusion for many. 

I don't think so.  It's not easy to convert the true believers. 

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...Yes, because this is the first time I've said this. :lol: 

 

It's not coming from Trump, asshat. It's coming from the evidence and primary sources. Things most people read before opining. You and Garbear should take note.

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I don't think so.  It's not easy to convert the true believers. 

 

There will be 5-10% who will be lost forever and unable to see. 

 

There will be many, many more who will be able to break free from the narrative once the full breadth of evidence is released. Those are the ones worth working with.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

...Yes, because this is the first time I've said this. :lol: 

 

It's not coming from Trump, asshat. It's coming from the evidence and primary sources. Things most people read before opining. You and Garbear should take note.

 

There will be 5-10% who will be lost forever and unable to see. 

 

There will be many, many more who will be able to break free from the narrative once the full breadth of evidence is released. Those are the ones worth working with.

You are far too low on that estimate.  Take a look around your world.  44 is a near diety. 

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I offer facts backed by sources - both primary and opinion - for people to form their own conclusions. 

 

You offer nothing. NOTHING. You have brought nothing to this discussion for over a year but laughing at posts you should really take the time to read. 

 

But carry on, Garbear.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

I offer facts backed by sources - both primary and opinion - for people to form their own conclusions. 

 

You offer nothing. NOTHING. You have brought nothing to this discussion for over a year but laughing at posts you should really take the time to read. 

 

But carry on, Garbear.

 

There you go again with the notorious alt-right CAPS LOCK YELL!

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25 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He has always been a subject of the investigation, that's not news. It is noteworthy that he's still a subject (and not a target) over a year later. Of course the 'collusion' narrative was always bullschiff that Clinton's attack machine manufactured, but it's interesting that Mueller has found nothing else in the year plus of investigating.

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Proving my point.

Just now, Koko78 said:

He has always been a subject of the investigation, that's not news. It is noteworthy that he's still a subject (and not a target) over a year later. Of course the 'collusion' narrative was always bullschiff that Clinton's attack machine manufactured, but it's interesting that Mueller has found nothing else in the year plus of investigating.

 

* No collusion.

* No criminal investigation. 

* All the indictments (minus one) are from a period before Trump was running and are connected to Podesta Group

* RR's memo lays out clearly the true target of Mueller's probe (it ain't Trump)

* At least two Grand Juries are ongoing for collusion/FISA abuse of 44's administration and DOJ officials

* At least one outside prosecutor who has been working for 6 months undetected (except by us)

* And the OIG report still waiting in the wings....

 

It takes massive dishonesty, or brainwashing, to NOT see where this is headed. And it's going exactly where I've been predicting for over a year now. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Proving my point.

 

* No collusion. Because that's not a crime! Conspiracy and money laundering are

* No criminal investigation. Yes there is and the president is a subject of the investigation 

* All the indictments (minus one) are from a period before Trump was running and are connected to Podesta Group Not true at all. His campaign manager, national security advisor and campaign officials indicted/plead guilty or waiting trial and sentencing 

* RR's memo lays out clearly the true target of Mueller's probe Horsesh it 

* At least two Grand Juries are ongoing for collusion/FISA abuse of 44's administration and DOJ officials politically motivated nonsense and not going to undermine the investigation at all 

* At least one outside prosecutor who has been working for 6 months undetected (except by us) Us?? Lol

* And the OIG report still waiting in the wings....Imminent!!! 

 

It takes massive dishonesty, or brainwashing, to NOT see where this is headed. And it's going exactly where I've been predicting for over a year now. Yes the first part 

 

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8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Proving my point.

 

* No collusion.

* No criminal investigation. 

* All the indictments (minus one) are from a period before Trump was running and are connected to Podesta Group

* RR's memo lays out clearly the true target of Mueller's probe (it ain't Trump)

* At least two Grand Juries are ongoing for collusion/FISA abuse of 44's administration and DOJ officials

* At least one outside prosecutor who has been working for 6 months undetected (except by us)

* And the OIG report still waiting in the wings....

 

It takes massive dishonesty, or brainwashing, to NOT see where this is headed. And it's going exactly where I've been predicting for over a year now. 

 

 

RR's memo was heavily redacted, so to say that Trump was not part of it is unclear. However, I suspect that any authority, in regards to Trump, is limited to the collusion narrative and any associated campaign/election issues. He was clearly never given carte blanche to look at Trump's entire life/business empire, which makes sense as that was never the reason for having a special prosecutor.

 

I agree with you, that the primary focus is not Trump (if it ever was.)

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17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I offer facts backed by sources - both primary and opinion - for people to form their own conclusions. 

 

You offer nothing. NOTHING. You have brought nothing to this discussion for over a year but laughing at posts you should really take the time to read. 

 

But carry on, Garbear.

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2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

RR's memo was heavily redacted, so to say that Trump was not part of it is unclear. However, I suspect that any authority, in regards to Trump, is limited to the collusion narrative and any associated campaign/election issues. He was clearly never given carte blanche to look at Trump's entire life/business empire, which makes sense as that was never the reason for having a special prosecutor.

 

I agree with you, that the primary focus is not Trump (if it ever was.)

If his business records show he was bailed out by Russian interests that then is part of the story of a conspiracy to defraud the United States. 

 

Brazil is sending its corrupt President to jail! 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

RR's memo was heavily redacted, so to say that Trump was not part of it is unclear. However, I suspect that any authority, in regards to Trump, is limited to the collusion narrative and any associated campaign/election issues. He was clearly never given carte blanche to look at Trump's entire life/business empire, which makes sense as that was never the reason for having a special prosecutor.

 

I agree with you, that the primary focus is not Trump (if it ever was.)

:beer: 

I'm going to bet that when we see the unredacted memo, a lot of the redacted stuff is about Tony Podesta. In context of everything else, it makes the most sense. 

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If his business records show he was bailed out by Russian interests that then is part of the story of a conspiracy to defraud the United States. 

 

Brazil is sending its corrupt President to jail! 

 

 

 

You mean the corrupt president supported and installed by HRC and 44's administration? :lol:

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