(OT) The Oscars Are A Joke

[ajzepp]

There's nothing wrong with tearing up at a movie.  Some movies just have that effect on people.

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Don't convince me of that, or I may admit that I got a little choked up at the (mother fu*ing) "Notebook" the other night......DAMN that Nicholas Sparks!

[R. Rich]

Don't convince me of that, or I may admit that I got a little choked up at the (mother fu*ing) "Notebook" the other night......DAMN that Nicholas Sparks!

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Nope. Nothing wrong with it.

 

I admit, I don't cry very often, but I do cry at times. My brother is a reporter for the Erie Times, and when I got married, he did an editorial piece about my wedding called "Hurricane Wasn't Enough To Stop A Brother's Wedding Day Tears". My wedding was 2 days after Hurricane Floyd hit our area, and he made mention of the difficulties he had in driving from Erie to Baltimore the same day Floyd was hitting Maryland. He said it was worth it to see my cry after the minister announced my wife and I. Even my wife got into the act, bragging that she waited 12 years for those tears, etc. To me, it's not a big deal, though.

[ajzepp]

Nope.  Nothing wrong with it. 

 

I admit, I don't cry very often, but I do cry at times.  My brother is a reporter for the Erie Times, and when I got married, he did an editorial piece about my wedding called "Hurricane Wasn't Enough To Stop A Brother's Wedding Day Tears".  My wedding was 2 days after Hurrican Floyd hit our area, and he made mention of the difficulties he had in driving from Erie to Baltimore the same day Floyd was hitting Maryland.  He said it was worth it to see my cry after the minister announced my wife and I.  Even my wife got into the act, bragging that she waited 12 years for those tears, etc.  To me, it's not a big deal, though.

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That's awesome, man........I remember you telling me before that you shared the same hometown as me..... I tell you what, for all of Erie's problems, there are some damn good folk there. I've always wanted to marry an Erie girl.....I wish I would have stuck to that plan....maybe I'd still be married lol

[R. Rich]

That's awesome, man........I remember you telling me before that you shared the same hometown as me..... I tell you what, for all of Erie's problems, there are some damn good folk there. I've always wanted to marry an Erie girl.....I wish I would have stuck to that plan....maybe I'd still be married lol

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Yep, there's plenty of good folks there. Most of my family still lives in Erie. Only my niece (who lives in Florida w/her kids) and my wife and I don't live there out of my immediate family. My Mother recently retired from SSA (Social Security Administration) after 37 years and bought a house in Erie. Not bad. I do like their housing prices. I'd move back there in a second if I could convince my wife to move some place cold. Yeah, right.

[ajzepp]

I'd move back there in a second if I could convince my wife to move some place cold.  Yeah, right.

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LOL, yeah, good luck with that one. Erie will always be a special place to me, but I have no clue how I'd ever go about convincing a girl to move there with me.

 

I don't suppose your wife is a consoisseur of pepperoni balls, is she?

[R. Rich]

LOL, yeah, good luck with that one. Erie will always be a special place to me, but I have no clue how I'd ever go about convincing a girl to move there with me.

 

I don't suppose your wife is a  consoisseur of pepperoni balls, is she? 

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She actually likes those. There's a pizza shop right around the corner from my brother's house (he lives up by Veterans Stadium-where all the high schools play their football games), and she tried them there. Believe me, if there was a chance I could convince her, I'd be outta here!

[ajzepp]

She actually likes those.  There's a pizza shop right around the corner from my brother's house (he lives up by Veterans Stadium-where all the high schools play their football games), and she tried them there.  Believe me, if there was a chance I could convince her, I'd be outta here!

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Where are you now? Bmore?

[TC in St. Louis]

No offense, fellas. But you could continue this discussion via personal message.

 

For the record, I cried during Finding Neverland.

[R. Rich]

No offense, fellas.  But you could continue this discussion via personal message. 

 

For the record, I cried during Finding Neverland.

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Thanks for putting the thread back on topic.

 

I haven't seen Finding Neverland, but I heard it's a good movie. Actually, I can't remember the last time I went to the movies. It's been a while. Lately, I've been catching them on the premium channels and buying them if I like them.

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R. Rich  Today, 07:55 AM Post #64 

 

 

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QUOTE(Alaska Darin @ Feb 25 2005, 05:05 PM)

Aw c'mon.  They made up for it by honoring Halle Berry and giving Denzel an award when they DIDN'T deserve them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of the nominees for Best Actor that year:

 

Russell Crowe -- A Beautiful Mind {"John Nash"}

Sean Penn -- I Am Sam {"Sam Dawson"}

Will Smith -- Ali {"Muhammad Ali"}

Denzel Washington -- Training Day {"Alonzo"}

Tom Wilkinson -- In the Bedroom {"Matt Fowler"}

 

I had no problem with Denzel winning it. I also would've been okay w/Russell Crowe getting it. Will Smith was great in Ali, but I thought Jamie Foxx was just as good playing Bundini Brown in that movie and should've been nominated. Speaking of the supporting actors, I saw Iris and thought it was a good movie and Broadbent was good in the role, but I thought he was better in Moulin Rouge that year. I also thought Ethan Hawke was great in Training Day and was just as good as Denzel was.

In my personal opinion, Tom Wilkinson should have won the Oscar that year. Even though I thought Crowe was outstanding in an average movie, Wilkinson's performance was fantastic.

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ajzepp  Today, 09:12 AM Post #75 

 

 

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QUOTE(MarkVaderr50 @ Feb 25 2005, 09:05 PM)

 

 

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this one, Shakespeare In Love over Saving Private Ryan???!!! That was the power of the Weinsteins. Does anyone even remember Shakespeare?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not only SVP, but also 'Life is Beautiful'. Both of those films were clearly superior to Shakespeare in Love. Life is Beautiful is my favorite film of all time. 

A much as I liked SPR, I would not have been upset if Life is Beautiful would have won. But, Shakespeare in Love????

[ajzepp]

A much as I liked SPR, I would not have been upset if Life is Beautiful would have won. But, Shakespeare in Love????

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No doubt.......Shakespeare in Love was good, not great. I wonder if the academy voters realized that Ben Affleck was in it.........Not to get up on a soapbox here, but is there any more overrated, untalented, 'lucky as hell to be where Im at in life" SOB than Benny?

[R. Rich]

I really thought Affleck was good in Good Will Hunting. After that, in the films I did see him in, he wasn't impressive.

[ajzepp]

I really thought Affleck was good in Good Will Hunting.  After that, in the films I did see him in, he wasn't impressive.

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Yeah, I'll admit there wasn't much not to like about that film......and being that he did co-author the screenplay I guess I can't say he has no talent......I just feel like he's the same character in every movie for some reason. Matt Damon, on the other hand, is a pretty talented and versatile actor. To go from something like Rounders, to Boune Identity/Supremacy, and then to Stuck on You, that's pretty impressive to be as convincing as he was in all four, IMO.

[IDBillzFan]

I really thought Affleck was good in Good Will Hunting.  After that, in the films I did see him in, he wasn't impressive.

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Chasing Amy. Though I'm not sure if he was really good, or if the people around him were so good and that propped him up. But I thoroughly enjoyed that flick and had no problem with Affleck there.

[R. Rich]

Yeah, I'll admit there wasn't much not to like about that film......and being that he did co-author the screenplay I guess I can't say he has no talent......I just feel like he's the same character in every movie for some reason. Matt Damon, on the other hand, is a pretty talented and versatile actor. To go from something like Rounders, to Boune Identity/Supremacy, and then to Stuck on You, that's pretty impressive to be as convincing as he was in all four, IMO.

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Don't forget The Rainmaker, perhaps the best film version of a John Grisham book. Damon was very good in that movie.

[R. Rich]

Chasing Amy. Though I'm not sure if he was really good, or if the people around him were so good and that propped him up. But I thoroughly enjoyed that flick and had no problem with Affleck there.

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I think that's the Ben Affleck movie my wife likes. Is that the one w/Sandra Bullock in it? I really don't remember.

[GG]

Chasing Amy. Though I'm not sure if he was really good, or if the people around him were so good and that propped him up. But I thoroughly enjoyed that flick and had no problem with Affleck there.

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I was just going to post the same thing. It just took me longer to type that Affleck plays a very good Affleck. He was good in Dogma & Silent Bob.

[GG]

I think that's the Ben Affleck movie my wife likes.  Is that the one w/Sandra Bullock in it?  I really don't remember.

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No, he played the comic book guy chasing the lesbian Joely Adams.

[ajzepp]

Don't forget The Rainmaker, perhaps the best film version of a John Grisham book.  Damon was very good in that movie.

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Wow, I forgot about that film......I agree, he was very good in that. I'm a little biased being as big of a Grisham fan as I am, but Damon was very good in that role. Come to think of it, that's one of the last films I remember seeing Mickey Rourke in........I've always felt he was an underrated actor with a lot of charisma.

[R. Rich]

Oh. I don't think I've seen it.

 

There is one he was in w/Sandra Bullock that my wife likes. I just can't remember the name of it. I guess I could just check Google and stop being so damn lazy.

[IDBillzFan]

No, he played the comic book guy chasing the lesbian Joely Adams.

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Dogma was outstanding as well, and I thoroughly enjoyed Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. In fact, if I recall, isn't that the movie where Affleck and Damon are standing around in the movie studio busting each other's balls about the crappy movies they were in?

[R. Rich]

Oh.  I don't think I've seen it. 

 

There is one he was in w/Sandra Bullock that my wife likes.  I just can't remember the name of it.  I guess I could just check Google and stop being so damn lazy.

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Found it. It was called Forces of Nature. I didn't see it, but my wife says it's good.

[ajzepp]

Oh.  I don't think I've seen it. 

 

There is one he was in w/Sandra Bullock that my wife likes.  I just can't remember the name of it.  I guess I could just check Google and stop being so damn lazy.

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Forces of Nature?

[GG]

Dogma was outstanding as well, and I thoroughly enjoyed Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. In fact, if I recall, isn't that the movie where Affleck and Damon are standing around in the movie studio busting each other's balls about the crappy movies they were in?

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That was the one, including Bob (Kevin Smith) lamenting that the guys that he launched are bigger than he is.

 

BTW, Rich, even though I hate turning people off google, here's the movie bible.

[R. Rich]

Yeah, I know about imbd. One stop shopping.

[Alaska Darin]

Of the nominees for Best Actor that year:

 

Russell Crowe -- A Beautiful Mind {"John Nash"} 

Sean Penn -- I Am Sam {"Sam Dawson"} 

Will Smith -- Ali {"Muhammad Ali"} 

Denzel Washington -- Training Day {"Alonzo"} 

Tom Wilkinson -- In the Bedroom {"Matt Fowler"} 

 

I had no problem with Denzel winning it.  I also would've been okay w/Russell Crowe getting it.  Will Smith was great in Ali, but I thought Jamie Foxx was just as good playing Bundini Brown in that movie and should've been nominated.  Speaking of the supporting actors, I saw Iris and thought it was a good movie and Broadbent was good in the role, but I thought he was better in Moulin Rouge that year.  I also thought Ethan Hawke was great in Training Day and was just as good as Denzel was.

 

As far as the actress race went:

 

Halle Berry -- Monster's Ball {"Leticia Musgrove"} 

Judi Dench -- Iris {"Iris Murdoch"} 

Nicole Kidman -- Moulin Rouge {"Satine"} 

Sissy Spacek -- In the Bedroom {"Ruth Fowler"} 

Renée Zellweger -- Bridget Jones's Diary {"Bridget Jones"} 

 

That one could've just as easily gone to Renee Zellweger for Bridget Jones' Diary or Nicole Kidman for Moulin Rouge.  All 3 were very good.  Judi Dench was okay in Iris, nothing special though.

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I can't say I agree with you on either take. In that group and for those films, Denzel would have finished last on my ballot. For that reason, my feeling is they gave him the award as kind of a "sorry about being really wrong about Malcom X" while at the same time flipping the bird to the much more deserving though anti-establishment Russell Crowe. I saw the film the day it came out and didn't leave the theater thinking Oscar.

 

As for Halle Berry, I don't think she deserved to be nominated either and about the only thing memorable about that film was Peter Boyle's portrayal of the racist father and the infamous living room scene - which looked like low budget porn.

[R. Rich]

I can't say I agree with you on either take.  In that group and for those films, Denzel would have finished last on my ballot.  For that reason, my feeling is they gave him the award as kind of a "sorry about being really wrong about Malcom X" while at the same time flipping the bird to the much more deserving though anti-establishment Russell Crowe.  I saw the film the day it came out and didn't leave the theater thinking Oscar.

 

As for Halle Berry, I don't think she deserved to be nominated either and about the only thing memorable about that film was Peter Boyle's portrayal of the racist father and the infamous living room scene - which looked like low budget porn.

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Awww, you can say you agree with me. Go ahead. I'll let you.

 

No problem. That's the beauty of free thought. Crowe was awesome in A Beautiful Mind, as he was the year before in Gladiator and the year before that in The Insider, which is a great movie. Never would've thought it either, after seeing him break into the biz in that stupid Virtuosity movie (which, ironically, starred Denzel Washington). The boy done good.

 

Halle was deserving, I thought, for Monster's Ball. There's more to that movie than Peter Boyle's performance (he was very good, as he often is) and that awkward love scene ("make me feel good"........ewwwwwww!!!). Sean Combs was surprisingly good in his role, as was Mos Def and the kid who played Halle Berry's son.

[ajzepp]

Any of you guys a fan of Adrien Brody? He was amazing in The Pianist......he was also in a film I saw recently called 'Dummy'. Kind of a quirky film about friendship and maturity. Not a great film, but I definitely found it worth the 90 minute investment.

[Alaska Darin]

Halle was deserving, I thought, for Monster's Ball.  There's more to that movie than Peter Boyle's performance (he was very good, as he often is) and that awkward love scene ("make me feel good"........ewwwwwww!!!).  Sean Combs was surprisingly good in his role, as was Mos Def and the kid who played Halle Berry's son.

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It left such an impression on me that I had forgot those 2 were in the movie.

[GG]

As for Halle Berry, I don't think she deserved to be nominated either and about the only thing memorable about that film was Peter Boyle's portrayal of the racist father and the infamous living room scene - which looked like low budget porn.

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Have to agree with you on this one. (But, low budget porn? seen many high productions?) Berry was fantastic in Dorothy Dandridge. I thought the casting was terrible for her Ball role. After all, she still looked like Halle Berry in it, and not like what Charlize Theron did in Monster.

 

For all you Tom Wilkinson fans, you have to see him in HBO's Normal.

[Alaska Darin]

Have to agree with you on this one.  (But, low budget porn?)  Berry was fantastic in Dorothy Dandridge.  I thought the casting was terrible for her Ball role.  After all, she still looked like Halle Berry in it, and not like what Charlize Theron did in Monster. 

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Well in my experience it's pretty much only low budget porn that has an old balding white guy hitting a hot woman. Though my understanding from one "news" report I saw is today that's considered fresh in the industry.

[IDBillzFan]

There's more to that movie than Peter Boyle's performance (he was very good, as he often is) and that awkward love scene ("make me feel good"........ewwwwwww!!!).  Sean Combs was surprisingly good in his role, as was Mos Def and the kid who played Halle Berry's son.

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I stayed away from Monster's Ball because the idea of freakshow Billy Bob Wifebeater doing the nasty with Halle Berry was repulsive even in thought. I did not know, unfortunately, that Peter Boyle was in it...and that definitely has my curiosity up.

[Fan in San Diego]

I stayed away from Monster's Ball because the idea of freakshow Billy Bob Wifebeater doing the nasty with Halle Berry was repulsive even in thought. I did not know, unfortunately, that Peter Boyle was in it...and that definitely has my curiosity up.

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That was a pretty hot scene. Billy Bob is one lucky man. because he is uglier than a shaved dog's ass , and would never get a sniff of Halle in real life IMHO

 

Watch (Murphy's law) they get married next week ?

[GG]

That was a pretty hot scene. Billy Bob is one lucky man. because he is uglier than a shaved dog's ass , and would never get a sniff of Halle in real life IMHO

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I guess you put Anglina Jolie in the (bad) bow wow category?

[ajzepp]

That was a pretty hot scene. Billy Bob is one lucky man. because he is uglier than a shaved dog's ass , and would never get a sniff of Halle in real life IMHO

 

Watch (Murphy's law)  they get married next week ?

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Though I find Halle Berry quite the babe, Angelina Jolie is a goddess.......and Mr. shaved dog's ass sure got more than a sniff of her.......lucky bastard

[Rico]

I guess you put Anglina Jolie in the (bad) bow wow category?

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Great lips that could be useful, but the tats kill her for me.

[IDBillzFan]

Great lips that could be useful, but the tats kill her for me.

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I was fine with her...until she and Billy Bob thought it a good idea to keep a vial of each other's blood hanging around their necks. I love my wife and would gladly give up my life for her if need be...but I'd hafta draw the line at "Let's draw blood and make a necklace out of it."

[ajzepp]

Great lips that could be useful, but the tats kill her for me.

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Say more......I don't get it

[Rico]

Say more......I don't get it

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I don't like tattoos...I wouldn't !@#$ her but I'd let her &*^% me.