John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Tuel was never given a real chance...he won that Chiefs game but for one stupid play. He was a gunslinger. Like Orton. He is so good that he is actually not playing for anyone......right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 He is so good that he is actually not playing for anyone......right? TT will be holding his hand in the breadline before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 TT will be holding his hand in the breadline before long. Care to make a bet on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Care to make a bet on it? Set terms homie. Brad Smith Jr ain't gonna last too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Care to make a bet on it? The jags or jets might give him a run when we cut him Set terms homie. Brad Smith Jr ain't gonna last too long. Ray Lucas Senior ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Set terms homie. Brad Smith Jr ain't gonna last too long. You define long......tired of your mouth.....put up or shut up I say the bills pick up his extension and he is here next year....lets have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 You define long......tired of your mouth.....put up or shut up I say the bills pick up his extension and he is here next year....lets have it They probably will. The FO is stupid and shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 They probably will. The FO is stupid and shortsighted. ok then.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) From one Captain Checkdown to another, here is Trentative compared to TT, both in their second season as starter: Trent Edwards 2008: 65.5% completion / Yards per attempt: 7.2 / yards passing per game: 192.8 Tyrod Taylor 2016: 61.3% completion / Yards per attempt: 6.6 / yards passing per game: 193.5 For those saying TT can't be judged because Watkins and Woods have missed time, I doubt the front office earmarks another 27M because their analysis didn't include his top receivers. This is a big decision and he's not really taken the big leap to earn the follow on years to his essentially 1 year deal. And, do you pay a QB that kind of money when he doesn't (as Whaley said last off-season) come from behind? Do you tell the owner, if you're Whaley, to commit another 27M to a player that is average at best? This after they spent big on Dareus, Glenn, Hughes, McCoy, Clay, and Incognito? TT is the perfect QB...if you expect your offense to succeed with the run and your defense is near perfect. Unfortunately, they've handled the QB position as though they can only have 1 option at a time. And right now that's what they have because they're deathly afraid of a QB controversy. Edited November 26, 2016 by BillsVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 From one Captain Checkdown to another, here's is Trentative compared to TT, both in their second season as starter: Trent Edwards 2008: 65.5% completion / Yards per attempt: 7.2 / yards passing per game: 192.8 Tyrod Taylor 2016: 61.3% completion / Yards per attempt: 6.6 / yards passing per game: 193.5 For those saying TT can't be judged because Watkins and Woods have missed time, I doubt the front office earmarks another 27M because their analysis didn't include his top receivers. And, do you pay a QB that kind of money when he doesn't (as Whaley said last off-season) come from behind? Do you tell the owner, if you're Whaley, to commit another 27M to a player that is average at best? This after they spent big on Dareus, Glenn, Hughes, McCoy, Clay, and Incognito? TT is the perfect QB...if you expect your offense to succeed with the run and your defense is near perfect. You think the front office is not taking into account Sammy Watkins has not been on the field? You cant be serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 From one Captain Checkdown to another, here's is Trentative compared to TT, both in their second season as starter: Trent Edwards 2008: 65.5% completion / Yards per attempt: 7.2 / yards passing per game: 192.8 Tyrod Taylor 2016: 61.3% completion / Yards per attempt: 6.6 / yards passing per game: 193.5 For those saying TT can't be judged because Watkins and Woods have missed time, I doubt the front office earmarks another 27M because their analysis didn't include his top receivers. And, do you pay a QB that kind of money when he doesn't (as Whaley said last off-season) come from behind? Do you tell the owner, if you're Whaley, to commit another 27M to a player that is average at best? This after they spent big on Dareus, Glenn, Hughes, McCoy, Clay, and Incognito? TT is the perfect QB...if you expect your offense to succeed with the run and your defense is near perfect. Damn...thanks for those stats. I knew they were similar but those numbers make them out to be twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Damn...thanks for those stats. I knew they were similar but those numbers make them out to be twins. I guess if that was the only thing Tyrod brought to the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Tyrod is the best QB the Bills have had in years, but that doesn't mean he's any good. He's great at scrambling around...but horrible at finding open receivers. John is the biggest homer (idiot) on this message board, and it's not even close. There's no point in arguing with an absolute dolt like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Damn...thanks for those stats. I knew they were similar but those numbers make them out to be twins. Can we look at turnovers, sacks and rushing yards (by the QB) now, or should we continue to play the cherry picking game... Hope some of you bring pies to the game, you have enough cherries to last months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Year two starting: Edwards: 11 TD, 10 INT, 117 rushing 3.3 per attempt Taylor (through 10 games): 10 TD, 4 INT, 401 rushing 6.4 per attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Year two starting: Edwards: 11 TD, 10 INT, 117 rushing 3.3 per attempt Taylor (through 10 games): 10 TD, 4 INT, 401 rushing 6.4 per attempt In all honest what you really have here is people just dont want an uncoventional QB......it doesnt matter that we are also like 9th in the league in points. We want (well the crowed that wont bring up your stats) a stand in the pocket Ben R. type.....300 yards a game, 3 TDS, who cares how many picks, but a guy that puts up franchise QB type numbers. - Missing targets be damned - Scheme be damed - Ball security be damed - dont think out side the box with a QB that gets you first downs Tyrod Taylor is not perfect....if he was perfect we would be dealing with something truly special....impossible to find because he would bring everthing he brings PLUS he would see every open receiver......work majorly over the middle of the field......not throw any bad passes......will it into his pass catchers to not drop balls etc etc Tyrod Taylor is a different kind of qb....he is a exceptional athlete who is a middling starter qb The bills I am sure are hoping that his passing stats pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 In all honest what you really have here is people just dont want an uncoventional QB......it doesnt matter that we are also like 9th in the league in points. We want (well the crowed that wont bring up your stats) a stand in the pocket Ben R. type.....300 yards a game, 3 TDS, who cares how many picks, but a guy that puts up franchise QB type numbers. - Missing targets be damned - Scheme be damed - Ball security be damed - dont think out side the box with a QB that gets you first downs Tyrod Taylor is not perfect....if he was perfect we would be dealing with something truly special....impossible to find because he would bring everthing he brings PLUS he would see every open receiver......work majorly over the middle of the field......not throw any bad passes......will it into his pass catchers to not drop balls etc etc Tyrod Taylor is a different kind of qb....he is a exceptional athlete who is a middling starter qb The bills I am sure are hoping that his passing stats pick up. Lolz "conventional" Aka can throw the ball for first downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Lolz "conventional" Aka can throw the ball for first downs. Tyrod throws for first down.....I dont know why you would say he does not? The difference is....sometimes he runs for those first downs instead of throwing the ball to a receiver.....I would like to see more of that as well but lets not act like he doesnt do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 You think the front office is not taking into account Sammy Watkins has not been on the field? You cant be serious Level playing field St John the Delusional. Edwards didn't have him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Tyrod throws for first down.....I dont know why you would say he does not? The difference is....sometimes he runs for those first downs instead of throwing the ball to a receiver.....I would like to see more of that as well but lets not act like he doesnt do it. Yea he moves those chains all day long Except when he doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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