CommonCents Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZV2HK Lots of rumors going around about an attempted military coup of Turkey. Erdogan is out too sea on vacation from what I can make of it, so good timing? Would this be a good thing for U.S. relations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZV2HK Lots of rumors going around about an attempted military coup of Turkey. Erdogan is out too sea on vacation from what I can make of it, so good timing? Would this be a good thing for U.S. relations? VERY good thing. Get rid of an islamist in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0ZV2HK Lots of rumors going around about an attempted military coup of Turkey. Erdogan is out too sea on vacation from what I can make of it, so good timing? Would this be a good thing for U.S. relations? It could be a great thing, considering Turkey is part of the problem when it comes to fighting ISIS... but it depends on who takes over of course. Live, updating Reddit feed for all interested: https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yeah of course from what I have read all the press releases have been about restoring their democracy and human rights, but it's easy to say good things. Hopefully it is good people doing a good thing. I have heard and read about Erdogan but I'd be playing a fool if I tried to gauge the impact something like this would have. I wonder what the U.S. bases look like down there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Rumors are it's to install this man, currently in exile in the US. So, what are the odds we're backing this thing? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25885817 Yeah of course from what I have read all the press releases have been about restoring their democracy and human rights, but it's easy to say good things. Hopefully it is good people doing a good thing. I have heard and read about Erdogan but I'd be playing a fool if I tried to gauge the impact something like this would have. I wonder what the U.S. bases look like down there right now. Erdogan is one of the biggest enemies in the region if you're a fan of democracy and individual freedoms. But he is / was (?) backed by the west which made him untouchable. Another live feed: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 It could be a great thing, considering Turkey is part of the problem when it comes to fighting ISIS... but it depends on who takes over of course. Live, updating Reddit feed for all interested: https://www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkq Whoever takes over, Turkey will still be part of the problem. The problem is the whole region is a patchwork of shifting allegiances that make Game of Thrones look linear and straightforward. Turkey will still be a contributor to that snake pit no matter who's in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Whoever takes over, Turkey will still be part of the problem. The problem is the whole region is a patchwork of shifting allegiances that make Game of Thrones look linear and straightforward. Turkey will still be a contributor to that snake pit no matter who's in charge. More than likely that's true. I'm more interested in who's backing it. Could be us. Could be Russia. Could be both(?)... nah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Rumors are it's to install this man, currently in exile in the US. So, what are the odds we're backing this thing? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25885817 Erdogan is one of the biggest enemies in the region if you're a fan of democracy and individual freedoms. But he is / was (?) backed by the west which made him untouchable. Another live feed: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357 So who's backing the coup? Keeping in mind Russia's recent Black Sea/Eastern Med interests, and the incursions by Russian forces in Syria into Turkish territory. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin had a hand in this...on the other hand, whether he did or not, I'd be very surprised if he didn't manipulate the situation to his advantage before our leadership manages to get off the back nine... More than likely that's true. I'm more interested in who's backing it. Could be us. Could be Russia. Could be both(?)... nah... Beat me to it. I doubt it's us, because this administration tends to do this clumsily and at arm's length by proxy (e.g. Libya.) "Direct" and "subtle" are not in this administration's vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So who's backing the coup? Keeping in mind Russia's recent Black Sea/Eastern Med interests, and the incursions by Russian forces in Syria into Turkish territory. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin had a hand in this...on the other hand, whether he did or not, I'd be very surprised if he didn't manipulate the situation to his advantage before our leadership manages to get off the back nine... Yup. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Especially considering the amount of nukes on US bases in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Man the world keeps interrupting Obama's golf game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Erdogan just gave a press conference via Skype... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Both sides are reporting that they beat the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Man the world keeps interrupting Obama's golf game. Asked about the Turkey situation, Trump said it was his favorite episode of "WKRP" and that he loves everyone in Ohio hugely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yup. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Especially considering the amount of nukes on US bases in the region. Incirlik must be going crazy right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Incirlik must be going crazy right now.... Yup: https://twitter.com/NuclearAnthro/status/754049683828281344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yup: https://twitter.com/NuclearAnthro/status/754049683828281344 Ive been very close to where they are stored.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I wonder what the contingency plan is when a US nuclear facility is about to be over-run. Launch them into the sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I wonder what the contingency plan is when a US nuclear facility is about to be over-run. Launch them into the sea? No... But I am very curious to see what is going on and who is in charge of turkey right now. Not sure if it will be better or worse for relations, erdogen was a loose cannon and flirting with more and more theocratic rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I wonder what the contingency plan is when a US nuclear facility is about to be over-run. Launch them into the sea? Nuke Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Yup. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Especially considering the amount of nukes on US bases in the region. Hey, maybe it's ISIS... Incirlik (where they keep the nukes in Turkey) is on alert. Not that there's much there - a dozen A-10s and some UAVs. Don't even know why we keep nukes there anymore...probably bureaucratic inertia. I wonder what the contingency plan is when a US nuclear facility is about to be over-run. Launch them into the sea? They have ways of disabling the weapons. I don't remember what though - I'll try looking it up when I get home. Both sides are reporting that they beat the other. I can't recall a coup where that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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