Rob's House Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 But we Democrats are for capitalism too. We just also think that the government should spread out the abundance it has helped to create. You mean you want to confiscate that which capitalism produced, distribute it as you see fit, and hope your intrusion into the market doesn't disrupt its function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 You mean you want to confiscate that which capitalism produced, distribute it as you see fit, and hope your intrusion into the market doesn't disrupt its function. Take back some, use it for the greater good of all--including the capitalists--and ensure that markets run fairly and smoothly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 ...and ensure that markets run fairly and smoothly as possible. Tell us how this will happen. Give examples. Be specific. Use your own words. We'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Take back some, use it for the greater good of all--including the capitalists--and ensure that markets run fairly and smoothly as possible. Don't you have to own something in the first place before you can take it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Tell us how this will happen. Give examples. Be specific. Use your own words. We'll wait. Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Reserve etc. Don't you have to own something in the first place before you can take it back? The government makes the money in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Reserve etc. Precisely what role would they play to ensure markets running smoothly and fairly? Be specific. Use your own words. We'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 The government makes the money in the first place No, it doesn't. The government prints currency. To deny the distinction is to admit to a lack of even a basic understanding of the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Precisely what role would they play to ensure markets running smoothly and fairly? Be specific. Use your own words. We'll wait. Would? Why "would"? What are you talking about? No, it doesn't. The government prints currency. To deny the distinction is to admit to a lack of even a basic understanding of the subject. Yes, they make the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Would? Why "would"? What are you talking about? Yes, they make the money. This is profound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This is profound. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Would? Why "would"? What are you talking about? Well obviously you don't feel the markets run fairly and smoothly now. What would the SEC, Fed and etc (how are these etc's anyway?) do differently to ensure smooth and fair markets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Well obviously you don't feel the markets run fairly and smoothly now. What would the SEC, Fed and etc (how are these etc's anyway?) do differently to ensure smooth and fair markets? What makes you think I don't feel they are running smoothly? Where are you getting that from? Your bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 What makes you think I don't feel they are running smoothly? Where are you getting that from? Your bias? So you're saying they run smoothly now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Yes, they make the money. No, they print currency, which is nothing more than a marker for value. If it wasn't then there would be no such thing as inflation or deflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 No, they print currency, which is nothing more than a marker for value. If it wasn't then there would be no such thing as inflation or deflation. They make the money. So you're saying they run smoothly now? Relatively, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Relatively, yes. If so then why does the government need more money to ensure something that is already happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 They make the money. They make currency, which is a marker for value. Our currency is backed by units of labor, both current and future. So what you are saying, quite literally, is that the government makes labor in a labor factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 If so then why does the government need more money to ensure something that is already happening? Do you just feel the need to ask questions? Because markets are not everything, they are just a part--a big part--of our society. So ensuring they run smoothly is only part of what the government does. They make currency, which is a marker for value. Our currency is backed by units of labor, both current and future. So what you are saying, quite literally, is that the government makes labor in a labor factory. Without the government creating the money, marker, value holder, whatever, there would be damn little factory labor going on. So, I guess, indirectly, the government facilitates the creation of labor, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very wide right Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Do you just feel the need to ask questions? Because markets are not everything, they are just a part--a big part--of our society. So ensuring they run smoothly is only part of what the government does. Without the government creating the money, marker, value holder, whatever, there would be damn little factory labor going on. So, I guess, indirectly, the government facilitates the creation of labor, yes. Gatorman,I'm Very wide right.We should get together and hold a think tank sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Gatorman,I'm Very wide right.We should get together and hold a think tank sometime. Tanks can't be made from drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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