FireChan Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Has he had three years yet? I don't see what's so funny. Edited May 20, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Has he had three years yet? I don't see what's so funny. I know where you're going with this and of course I agree with you but I think the distinction here is that they blindly named him the starter without a competition. I don't really understand the purpose of this whatsoever. What if either Fitzpatrick or Petty clearly outplays him all offseason/preseason? But yes, to your point, if I'm a Jets fan and the Bills blindly named Manuel the starter over Cassel and Taylor, they would have every bit the right to say, "there is a God" too and that's where a lot of people on here would take offense. Actually now that I think of it, the situations are remarkably similar- with Taylor being our Petty. I am really glad the Bills are having an open competition. Edited May 20, 2015 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 I don't think Geno has ever had a competition there. In fact, that was a knock on Rex. They brought in Vick last year and reportedly it was a "fake competition" as vick didnt even care. Guess this shoots down Polian's theory that Bryce Petty was worthy of competing for a starting role this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Geno has had some great games, so the potential is there, he just needs to cut down on stupid decisions. Whether that will happen or not, who knows. It'll be interesting to see him work under Chan, at the very least. I don't know why everyone expects every QB to be great so early in their careers... he's young, who knows what the future holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I know where you're going with this and of course I agree with you but I think the distinction here is that they blindly named him the starter without a competition. I don't really understand the purpose of this whatsoever. What if either Fitzpatrick or Petty clearly outplays him all offseason/preseason? But yes, to your point, if I'm a Jets fan and the Bills blindly named Manuel the starter over Cassel and Taylor, they would have every bit the right to say, "there is a God" too and that's where a lot of people on here would take offense. Actually now that I think of it, the situations are remarkably similar- with Taylor being our Petty. I am really glad the Bills are having an open competition. There was competition, but Sanchez got hurt in preseason. Familiar, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 There was competition, but Sanchez got hurt in preseason. Familiar, huh? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 There was competition, but Sanchez got hurt in preseason. Familiar, huh? oops that's right. I forgot there was overlap with Sanchez and Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Geno has had some great games, so the potential is there, he just needs to cut down on stupid decisions. Whether that will happen or not, who knows. It'll be interesting to see him work under Chan, at the very least. I don't know why everyone expects every QB to be great so early in their careers... he's young, who knows what the future holds. At least you're consistent. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Huh? I thought you were talking about Geno's rookie year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Chan being Chan. Just attachin himself to the hip of a QB without a competition. Jets could be 1-10 and hell drill home that Geno is theastarter. Ala Fitzpatrick It's Geno's turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I thought you were talking about Geno's rookie year? No my entire post was in regards to Geno Smith apparently being named the Jets starter for this upcoming season. That's what we're talking about, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 At least you're consistent. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. That all being said, I think it's kinda dumb for them to not have a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 That all being said, I think it's kinda dumb for them to not have a competition. "Unquestioned starter" in May, when he was benched multiple times last year and has a penchant for throwing pick 6s, is odd imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Geno Smith has had 30 starts. In only 8 of his starts did he break the 50 mark in the tQBR rating. EJ did it in 8 of his 14 starts. Geno did have some great games (4) in his 30 starts but I'd think the the guy that's hit 50+ in 57% of his games has shown more than the one @ 27%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 No my entire post was in regards to Geno Smith apparently being named the Jets starter for this upcoming season. That's what we're talking about, right? I guess, I misread it as referring to him being named starter three years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Just when I thought this day couldn't get any worse I read this and it's sunny again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Geno Smith has had 30 starts. In only 8 of his starts did he break the 50 mark in the tQBR rating. EJ did it in 8 of his 14 starts. Geno did have some great games (4) in his 30 starts but I'd think the the guy that's hit 50+ in 57% of his games has shown more than the one @ 27%.weren't 2 of his "great" games the last game of the year against teams running for the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 @RichCimini: This is news: Geno Smith is the starter, no competition in training camp, per Jets OC Chan Gailey. #nyj Well, sure. But then, Gailey annointed Trent Edwards the Bills starter before one season, and how did that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 weren't 2 of his "great" games the last game of the year against teams running for the bus? Every QB has good games against teams running for the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) weren't 2 of his "great" games the last game of the year against teams running for the bus? I will look into that. I do know one was heavily dependent on Justin Rogers being the starting corner for the Bills. When looking at the composite stats for any QB, look out for the ones that are mostly poor outings skewed by a smattering of outstanding ones vs. those that have a majority of good games that are heavily influenced by a few bad ones. Btw, last year Kyle Orton had only 4 of his 12 starts with a tQBR at 50+, 2 of those vs. the Jets. Edited May 20, 2015 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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