TakeYouToTasker Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, GG said: Here are a few questions to ponder. As a parent, would you allow your 12-year old to go to the front lines of a violent protest, where there's a high chance the child would get hurt? As a parent, what would be the rationale to actively bring a 12-year old to the front lines of a violent protest, where there's a high chance the child would get hurt? What would you call the parent in the latter situation? While there's some validity to that, I'd ask that you consider economic impacts on the value of human life in a society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real News Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Seems a reasonable conclusion to me: IDF is engaging multiple Palestinian factions. That these factions are actually assaulting the fence line (I've found stories on three different assaults using explosives or incendiary devices) is just a sixth fact he didn't have room to mention. This is correct. There are now 52 confirmed deaths, and Israel has confirmed 3 of the 52 dead are terrorists. Those three were involved in a bomb laying attack near Rafah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: That’s what happens when you lose your country more and more everyday. Ppl actually get upset about that type of thing and they protest to show the world their outrage. They don’t have a military. They don’t even have guns. The opposition does and they love using them. So call it what you want. I know you can’t/won’t see it for what it really is. The simple answer would be don't throw rocks and get violent with the people who have guns because, you know, you might get shot. I guess some lessons are never learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: The simple answer would be don't throw rocks and get violent with the people who have guns because, you know, you might get shot. I guess some lessons are never learned. No. They aren’t. Hopeless and helpless won’t change their resistance because they aren’t pussies. They’re very brave ppl. You might say they’re stupid, but that’s real patriotism. The type you like to applaud over here and couldn’t even begin to fathom. Edited May 14, 2018 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: That’s what happens when you lose your country more and more everyday. Ppl actually get upset about that type of thing and they protest to show the world their outrage. They don’t have a military. They don’t even have guns. The opposition does and they love using them. So call it what you want. I know you can’t/won’t see it for what it really is. I would posit that you won't see it for what it really is. The Palestinians must learn to operate in their realities. They are not where they are because Israel did something to them. They are suffering as a result of their own actions. They insist on engaging in war, and they are losing. Badly. Further, Israel is performing a just function in slaughtering them when they engage Israel in war. Ghandi's path is their only way to peace. Their current path is one to justified extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I would posit that you won't see it for what it really is. The Palestinians must learn to operate in their realities. They are not where they are because Israel did something to them. They are suffering as a result of their own actions. They insist on engaging in war, and they are losing. Badly. Further, Israel is performing a just function in slaughtering them when they engage Israel in war. Ghandi's path is their only way to peace. Their current path is one to justified extinction. War??? Lol. Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: No. They aren’t. Hopeless and helpless won’t change their resistance because they aren’t pussies. They’re very brave ppl. You might say they’re stupid, but that’s real patriotism. The type you like to applaud over here and couldn’t even begin to fathom. Then they know the risks and don't need you crying about how it's unfair. See how that doesn't make sense? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I would posit that you won't see it for what it really is. The Palestinians must learn to operate in their realities. They are not where they are because Israel did something to them. They are suffering as a result of their own actions. They insist on engaging in war, and they are losing. Badly. Further, Israel is performing a just function in slaughtering them when they engage Israel in war. Ghandi's path is their only way to peace. Their current path is one to justified extinction. They have had 13 years to prove they can co-exist. How much of the external funds that Hamas has received have gone to building up the economy vs using it to wage war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, jmc12290 said: Then they know the risks and don't need you crying about how it's unfair. See how that doesn't make sense? I can’t help what makes sense to you. They’re hoping their actions will lead to international intervention. They are crying out for help through their actions. 1 minute ago, GG said: They have had 13 years to prove they can co-exist. How much of the external funds that Hamas has received have gone to building up the economy vs using it to wage war? I have no clue but they do offer tons of services to the people. Who do you think is taking care of them in Gaza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Justice said: I can’t help what makes sense to you. They’re hoping their actions will lead to international intervention. They are crying out for help through their actions. What's the definition of insanity dude? If the Palestinians decide they will continue to throw bodies at this problem in hopes someone will step in and save them, they will all die. What more proof do you need of that fact? Edited May 14, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Next time there’s a protest in the streets of the US I’ll be sure to remember they’re waging war. Cool story. 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: What's the definition of insanity dude? If the Palestinians decide they will continue to throw bodies at this problem in hopes someone will step in and save them, they will all die. What more proof do you need of that fact? Then so be it. The Israelis keep inciting protests and the Palestinians keep giving them what they want. It’s too bad you ppl don’t give a **** about their lives. They’re giving the international community too much credit. They should know by now nobody gives AF. You only care about your own kind. Racist AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Justice said: Next time there’s a protest in the streets of the US I’ll be sure to remember they’re waging war. Cool story. Let's say that a group of Mexicans who insist that Texas was taken from them illegally ammasses on the border and starts lobbing rockets and rocks at US border patrol. Do you think there's a chance some will get shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Justice said: Next time there’s a protest in the streets of the US I’ll be sure to remember they’re waging war. Cool story. Then so be it. The Israelis keep inciting protests and the Palestinians keep giving them what they want. It’s too bad you ppl don’t give a **** about their lives. They’re giving the international community too much credit. They should know by now nobody gives AF. You only care about your own kind. Racist AF. They should know by now violence begets violence. Stupid AF, tbh. How did Israel "incite" this protest? 1 minute ago, GG said: Let's say that a group of Mexicans who insist that Texas was taken from them illegally ammasses on the border and starts lobbing rockets and rocks at US border patrol. Do you think there's a chance some will get shot? Depends on how many US soldiers get killed or maimed. If all the rockets miss, the Mexicans shouldn't have to suffer return fire! Don't you know the rules of engagement? - Justice, probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: They should know by now violence begets violence. Stupid AF, tbh. How did Israel "incite" this protest? My moving the embassy to Jerusalem. East Jerusalem is OCCUPIED land. Illegal under international laws. 3 minutes ago, GG said: Let's say that a group of Mexicans who insist that Texas was taken from them illegally ammasses on the border and starts lobbing rockets and rocks at US border patrol. Do you think there's a chance some will get shot? I doubt we’d kill 50 people. I’m sure there’s other way to keep them from crossing and we’d most likely find other ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Justice said: They don’t have a military. They don’t even have guns. No guns there. Nope. Hm. I thought you said they didn't have guns. oh darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, Justice said: My moving the embassy to Jerusalem. East Jerusalem is OCCUPIED land. Illegal under international laws. That act wasn't violent. You are incapable of seeing the capacity for peaceful protest, much like the rest of the Palestinians. It's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Justice said: War??? Lol. Wow. Just wow. Yes. War. Just because they lack a good deal of modern weaponry, and are dwarfed in military might by Israel, they are not to be excused for waging war. If they continue along these lines they should be swept into the sea. Ghandi's path is their only way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Justice said: I can’t help what makes sense to you. They’re hoping their actions will lead to international intervention. They are crying out for help through their actions. I have no clue but they do offer tons of services to the people. Who do you think is taking care of them in Gaza? They offer just enough services to prevent a revolt, but not enough to lift people out of their permanent victimhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: They should know by now violence begets violence. Stupid AF, tbh. How did Israel "incite" this protest? Have you even heard about all the Palestinians that got sniped by Israelis the last few weeks? I’ve seen clips of it. You’ll hear things like, “that’ll teach them! Don’t throw rocks”. That’s funny because nobody would be throwing rocks if they don’t show up to lands that don’t belong in in the first place. They incite it by showing up. They don’t belong there. At all. Stay on the opposite side of the wall. Stay in your illegal settlements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, joesixpack said: No guns there. Nope. Hm. I thought you said they didn't have guns. oh darn. He's just making a point about gun control. It's impossible for Palestinians to have guns because Palestinians are prohibited from owning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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