FireChan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Not an elfin chance. But IMO neither is Cutler Who has a better chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You think because Cutler can throw the ball far that means he can take us to the SB ? You know what the Bears are asking themselves right now ? What else can they do to have some sort of success with Cutler ? They have gotten rid of coaches and built up a fantasy team, around him and they still cannot have any sort of success with Cutler ? Minus that time he went to the nfc championship game, or lovies last season when they were 10-6. He hasnt been full on terrible the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Minus that time he went to the nfc championship game, or lovies last season when they were 10-6. He hasnt been full on terrible the whole time. You mean that time the top 5 defense pulled that 30th ranked offense with 28 turnovers to the NFC championship game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsicat17 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You think because Cutler can throw the ball far that means he can take us to the SB ? You know what the Bears are asking themselves right now ? What else can they do to have some sort of success with Cutler ? They have gotten rid of coaches and built up a fantasy team, around him and they still cannot have any sort of success with Cutler ? Maybe if they had a top 5 defense that would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Maybe if they had a top 5 defense that would help. Or if they didnt have a bottom 3 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You mean that time the top 5 defense pulled that 30th ranked offense with 28 turnovers to the NFC championship game That time with Devin Hester as the #1 WR? It's a miracle they made it that far at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC2002 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Maybe if they had a top 5 defense that would help. Or if the offense actually played up to its potential which it never has under Cutler for any length of time . They had a top 5 defense in 2010 and dragged Cutler and the 30th ranked offense to a NFC title game . They have invested heavily in doing any and everything possible for Cutler to be successful as "the guy" and he has failed to deliver but his personality will never let him just be a game manager and so what are you left with .? I read somewhere that last year the bears averaged 28 ppg overall and only average 21 ppg this year . Jay Cutler has 7 .5 starts and the offense averaged 22 ppg and Mccown in his 4.5 starts averaged 24 ppg . After 6 years and all the offensive changes they know the problem starts with Cutler but I dont think they get rid of him this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I know I'm gonna get killed for saying this...But we're Kirk Cousins, two decent guards and one halfway competent OC away from challenging for a championship. There's talent on this offense. Just utter lack of creativity in terms of how to use them. For the record, I think the Redskins are one dysfunctional franchise. They're a clustersuck right now. Even Colt McCoy has struggled prior to his injury. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/12/17/kirk-cousins-ive-learned-from-my-mistakes/ EJ is way to inaccurate for my tastes. Cousins isn't the long term answer. But he has a good combination of leadership, accuracy, athleticism and football intelligence. Right now I'm guessing he would be available for a 4th or 5th round pick. The 2nd round pick in the 2015 draft has to be a for a top notch guard. I would then use our 2016 1st pick on a QB to groom behind whomever ends up leading the charge next year. C I saw enough of cousins in college to not buy into his anointing in Wash. I will be shocked if he ever becomes more than an above average backup. He's Fitz, Orton, even RJ back in the day. Can string a few games together here and there but always regresses to the mean and shows why he's not starting material. What QBs have busted out or been let go by their original team, and come back to win a Super Bowl? Young, Dilfer, Brees are the ones I can think of. Close calls to Peyton, Warner, and Gannon. Obviously not impossible but I just don't have faith in any of the retread options out there except for maybe cam newton who won't be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Watched that game the other night and once the Bears got down it seemed like Cutler checked out. He seemed defeated and uninterested and was just going through the motions. He still seemed like he was trying to a certain degree but was at a frustration point of whatever. Yeah his body language seemed as if he didn't care but he also seemed soooo fed up with his supporting cast and the Bears in general, that he is done in Chicago. I think a change of scenery will do him wonders, that doesn't mean he will all of a sudden become a Pro Bowler or anything or he will have a new and great attitude, but I can understand the frustration he is having on that mess of a team in Chicago. Would it work here in Buffalo, TBD maybe with a good team around him he gets way more motivated and interested. IDK but it might be worth a shot if the price is right, can't be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Cutler is a better option than any QB we have now or that we can get on the market. We dont have the option to be picky! Oh and in regards to how bad he is? As of today his stats are as follows.... QBR of 89.5 with 3,640 yards passing and 28 TD's If our QB had those stats we would be in the playoffs this year CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Cutler also has a better QBR than Orton....... CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 some of you are saying to get Cutler even with all of his flaws and turnovers? Are you kidding...you can live with all the INTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Cutler has a Better TD/INT ratio than Orton does Also, there is a reason why Orton is on his 4th NFL team...... CBF Edited December 18, 2014 by Canadian Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Cutler has a Better TD/INT ratio than Orton does Also, there is a reason why Orton is on his 4th NFL team...... CBF So our goal is to just get a step up from Orton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) So our goal is to just get a step up from Orton? Um......yes? IMO at least until we can get a better QB through the draft or FA in the next few years. Cutler would be a great fill in for the next 3 years or so CBF Edited December 18, 2014 by Canadian Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 $25mm of cap space eaten up over next 2 years for this guy? Lol .... NFW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 $25mm of cap space eaten up over next 2 years for this guy? Lol .... NFW! It's $17M CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's $17M CBF Espn said the deal is $15mm guaranteed 2015 and if he's on the roster day 3 then another $10mm guarantee kicks in for 2016. Very savvy deal the way his agent crafted it. Bears are screwed, as would we if we insanely took him off their hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yeah but all they need to do is cut a cheque for $15M and they can get out of the contract CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yeah but all they need to do is cut a cheque for $15M and they can get out of the contract CBF Is that all? Even to a billionaire that's a lot of money just to get rid of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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