The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 The only reason those games were winnable was because of the defense. The offense sucked for most of those games. Blaming our defense for not shutting down teams for 60 minutes while our offense struggles to score a td is a joke. This is a complete non sequitur. You do realize you're giving our defense credit, yet the opposing defenses no credit, right? It also has ZERO to do with what we were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 AW is one of my favorite players. Marrone is too conservative. But... At the end of the KC game, the Bills had one last chance if the defense could stop KC. A completed pass to Kelce, and the game was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Marrone comments about tackling too high and whiffing to Aaron Williams. Edited November 20, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If it's as bad as everyone says, between the two games, name five bad play calls and three scaredy cat decisions. We played the chiefs. The best pass d in the nfl. Below average run d. We throw 48 times. Run the ball 22. 2 of this runs were by Kyle Orton. Brown averaged 6.9 on 9 carries. Boobie 5 on 7 carries. Nice gameplan coach. And you only want 5 bad play calls? How about an entire gameplan? The Miami game showed how much guys he has. I don't have time to go over the entire game and nitpick all the plays right now and our play calling (and the refs) in the 2nd half caused me to get out of hand drunk, so I can't recall specifics at the moment. If you want a wimp coach with no balls and trust in his team, that sucks for you. I don't. I understand that you aren't a Marrone backer, as you stated. You just want to pick arguments and get down pidgeon hole arguments to fit your side. 5 bad play calls and 3 scardey cat decisions. Don't need 5 and 2. I'm sure you know of 2 scardey cat decisions...... We all do. They potentially cost us 2 wins. He plays not to lose. Enjoy that. Have fun with that. Our play calling offensively and the gutless decisions he makes, makes me ill. you can't convince me otherwise. Only he can. I doubt he's got the guys to do so. It's how I feel. You said 6 in a row. So, if you have to make **** up to make your case...well, then your case sucks. And you look like a little kid trying to win a pointless argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 We played the chiefs. The best pass d in the nfl. Below average run d. We throw 48 times. Run the ball 22. 2 of this runs were by Kyle Orton. Brown averaged 6.9 on 9 carries. Boobie 5 on 7 carries. Nice gameplan coach. And you only want 5 bad play calls? How about an entire gameplan? The Miami game showed how much guys he has. I don't have time to go over the entire game and nitpick all the plays right now and our play calling (and the refs) in the 2nd half caused me to get out of hand drunk, so I can't recall specifics at the moment. If you want a wimp coach with no balls and trust in his team, that sucks for you. I don't. I understand that you aren't a Marrone backer, as you stated. You just want to pick arguments and get down pidgeon hole arguments to fit your side. 5 bad play calls and 3 scardey cat decisions. Don't need 5 and 2. I'm sure you know of 2 scardey cat decisions...... We all do. They potentially cost us 2 wins. He plays not to lose. Enjoy that. Have fun with that. Our play calling offensively and the gutless decisions he makes, makes me ill. you can't convince me otherwise. Only he can. I doubt he's got the guys to do so. It's how I feel. And you look like a little kid trying to win a pointless argument. When asked for specifics you provided misinformation and more sweeping generalizations and then resorted to personal attacks. I think your case speaks for itself now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 BREAKING: AW has requested a trade to the Oakland Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 When asked for specifics you provided misinformation and more sweeping generalizations and then resorted to personal attacks. I think your case speaks for itself now. When asked for specifics I gave you an entire gameplan. You want FIVE bad playcalls? I gave you an entire gameplan. Just because I didn't give you what you want, doesn't mean jack. Sorry I can't recall 5 plays off the top of my head while watching a game in a drunken rage because our head coach has no balls to speak of. There's a reason people call Marrone a wuss. Because he is. You're fine with him as a coach? Oh wait, you're not. You're just arguing to argue. You haven't made a decision yet. Based on what I see out there, he's not adequate. And after this or next season, My money says Marrone is outta here. You can quite me on that. You think he's gonna be here after next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 When asked for specifics I gave you an entire gameplan. You want FIVE bad playcalls? I gave you an entire gameplan. Just because I didn't give you what you want, doesn't mean jack. Sorry I can't recall 5 plays off the top of my head while watching a game in a drunken rage because our head coach has no balls to speak of. There's a reason people call Marrone a wuss. Because he is. You're fine with him as a coach? Oh wait, you're not. You're just arguing to argue. You haven't made a decision yet. Based on what I see out there, he's not adequate. And after this or next season, My money says Marrone is outta here. You can quite me on that. You think he's gonna be here after next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Typical response. You watch a lot of those Marrone press conferences I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 When asked for specifics I gave you an entire gameplan. You want FIVE bad playcalls? I gave you an entire gameplan. Just because I didn't give you what you want, doesn't mean jack. Sorry I can't recall 5 plays off the top of my head while watching a game in a drunken rage because our head coach has no balls to speak of. There's a reason people call Marrone a wuss. Because he is. You're fine with him as a coach? Oh wait, you're not. You're just arguing to argue. You haven't made a decision yet. Based on what I see out there, he's not adequate. And after this or next season, My money says Marrone is outta here. You can quite me on that. You think he's gonna be here after next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Typical response. You watch a lot of those Marrone press conferences I see. I've challenged every one of your sweeping generalizations with specifics. You continue to ignore them. I don't expect to change your mind. And yes, I'm arguing to argue. Heaven forbid we inject some reality into the frothing !@#$ THE COACH AND PUT HIS !@#$ING HEAD ON A SPIKE threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 troll of the week award. Masses must be wrong. Extend Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 troll of the week award. Masses must be wrong. Extend Marrone Haha. Given him the Dick Jauron/ Fitz/ Orton mid year extension. We can't risk letting a great coach like Marrone hit the open market! It will be a bidding war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Haha. Given him the Dick Jauron/ Fitz/ Orton mid year extension. We can't risk letting a great coach like Marrone hit the open market! It will be a bidding war! I am genuinely glad you remember the exact same rounds I did five years ago re: Jauron. The one time I've ventured from the it's the players, stupid argument was when it came to Wannestache. I !@#$ing hated that clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I am genuinely glad you remember the exact same rounds I did five years ago re: Jauron. The one time I've ventured from the it's the players, stupid argument was when it came to Wannestache. I !@#$ing hated that clown. I generally agree unless you see regression across the board. This offense has regressed. They wrote a bible of how not to develop a young qb. The oline is worse. Spiller got worse. So all the players suddenly got bad or is it coaching? I lean toward a the coaching and I really struggle to see how a sane person could think otherwise. We aren't dealing with an offensive coaching staff that has a track record of great results either. They were a middle of the pack BIg East offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I generally agree unless you see regression across the board. This offense has regressed. They wrote a bible of how not to develop a young qb. The oline is worse. Spiller got worse. So all the players suddenly got bad or is it coaching? I lean toward a the coaching and I really struggle to see how a sane person could think otherwise. We aren't dealing with an offensive coaching staff that has a track record of great results either. They were a middle of the pack BIg East offense. Spiller got worse? Mmmmmm, that's highly debatable. Spiller did precisely in 2014 what all his critics (myself included) said he'd do. Then broke his collar bone. And...AGAIN...the "offense" has not regressed. The REDZONE offense has regressed. Period. THAT'S what we suck at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Spiller got worse? Mmmmmm, that's highly debatable. Spiller did precisely in 2014 what all his critics (myself included) said he'd do. Then broke his collar bone. And...AGAIN...the "offense" has not regressed. The REDZONE offense has regressed. Period. THAT'S what we suck at. That's a big part of the puzzle to pretend is only a piece Also we are 27th in yards per play Fell to 30th in first downs per game 26th in 3rd down conversion percentage So I'm not sure it's just inside the 20s we are struggling. I early thought similar but it's becoming clear the defense is handing us the short fields to get 3 Edited November 21, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I generally agree unless you see regression across the board. This offense has regressed. They wrote a bible of how not to develop a young qb. The oline is worse. Spiller got worse. So all the players suddenly got bad or is it coaching? I lean toward a the coaching and I really struggle to see how a sane person could think otherwise. We aren't dealing with an offensive coaching staff that has a track record of great results either. They were a middle of the pack BIg East offense. Spier got worse? Didn't he already have half his 2013 TD total by week 4? I thought points mattered, not yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I've challenged every one of your sweeping generalizations with specifics. You continue to ignore them. I don't expect to change your mind. And yes, I'm arguing to argue. Heaven forbid we inject some reality into the frothing !@#$ THE COACH AND PUT HIS !@#$ING HEAD ON A SPIKE threads. I haven't rewatch end the game. I don't have access to a replay. It's impossible for me to name 5 specific plays. I was annihilated....thanks to frustration. Thanks to Marrone and his gimp OC. You seem to ignore the bills gameplan to throw 48 times and run the ball 20 times vs the number 1 pass d in football, who happens to have a marginal run defense. 5 plays, I could care less about. An entire gameplan. That's a problem. Thoughts? Or should you ignore this, again? Thoughts on if Marrone will be our coach after next season? Or should you ignore it, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I haven't rewatch end the game. I don't have access to a replay. It's impossible for me to name 5 specific plays. I was annihilated....thanks to frustration. Thanks to Marrone and his gimp OC. You seem to ignore the bills gameplan to throw 48 times and run the ball 20 times vs the number 1 pass d in football, who happens to have a marginal run defense. 5 plays, I could care less about. An entire gameplan. That's a problem. Thoughts? Or should you ignore this, again? Thoughts on if Marrone will be our coach after next season? Or should you ignore it, again? Marrone will be our coach after 2015 if we improve our record from the 2014 season. You know what I really hated about our gameplan in KC? That one passing play that we ran to Bryce Brown 4 times for about 60 total yards. Quick, name our best playmaker on the field vs KC. How do you propose getting him the ball without calling passing plays? Call 20 end arounds? Edited November 21, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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