Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 stop trolling, why do you post here? go join weo and ignore the obvious while attacking us for our fantasy theories while we watch them unfold week after week, year after year. Google some stats about pi called on the pats/broncos/colts etc vs the bills and get back to us when you have something to support your theory. (which it is since we actually do get called way more than other teams) and include non calls too. DVR all the games of all teams if you need to. we wont mind not hearing fro you for a while. Does anyone really call you "enlightener"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Or ya know...New York. Then why not the Cowboys? Were they trying to pass the USA COWBOYS Act, or the USA GIANTS (and that other team) Act? What was the name of that law they tried so hard to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The Cowboys haven't been in the SB sicne 1996--why not? And if you actually looked at that Neilson list, you will see it absolutley does not matter who plays in the SB---the ratings are atronomical. Why do you keep insisting otherwise? The "league" doesn't make more money in "wealthy cities"--the owners of the teams in wealthy cities make more money--whether their team wins playoffs or not. Again, look at the Cowboys: 2 playoff wins in 18 seasons, yet they are still raking in the revenue--they are valued at 3 billion dollars! And now playoffs! Redskins--clearing 150 million a year, worth 2.4 billion--and they stink for years! Texans, 100 billion in profits, stink. Jets, 80 million in profits. They have suck. Everything you are claiming about "the league" benefitting from the "big market" teams doing well is completely incorrect--and easily demonstrated as such. The NFL is the only national sport--every other is regional/local. Look at the laughable World Series ratings as proof. Here's a link to SB ratings--folks can draw their own conclusions: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/02/01/will-super-bowl-xlviii-tv-viewership-set-a-new-record-poll-ratings-history/233590/ Looks to me like whenever the 'Boys played the ratings went way up, particularly vs the Steelers, but even against us. The Pack also seems to be a consistent draw (but why would that be, since they're not so popular, right?) Just because the ratings are always high doesn't mean they aren't higher some years (and when some teams play) than others. I stand by my earlier statement that the League makes more $ (and due to revenue sharing, it is indeed the League as a whole making more $) when certain teams are popular--bigger market teams in richer demographic areas are a marketer's dream. And for the millionth time, I personally don't believe the NFL fixes games for said teams. It would be waaayyy too difficult to maintain silence on, as by definition it would need to involve tons and tons of people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I sometimes wonder if it's an understood but unspoken thing. How else do you explain Walt Coleman's continued employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Who's the most penalized team in the league? I'll wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Were they trying to pass the USA COWBOYS Act, or the USA GIANTS (and that other team) Act? What was the name of that law they tried so hard to sell? They could have called it anything they wanted and with the frame of mind everyone was in at the time it wouldn't have mattered. Also the Patriot Act was signed in October and the Patriots lost two days later, so. Edited November 18, 2014 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Here's a link to SB ratings--folks can draw their own conclusions: http://tvbythenumber...history/233590/ Looks to me like whenever the 'Boys played the ratings went way up, particularly vs the Steelers, but even against us. The Pack also seems to be a consistent draw (but why would that be, since they're not so popular, right?) Just because the ratings are always high doesn't mean they aren't higher some years (and when some teams play) than others. I stand by my earlier statement that the League makes more $ (and due to revenue sharing, it is indeed the League as a whole making more $) when certain teams are popular--bigger market teams in richer demographic areas are a marketer's dream. And for the millionth time, I personally don't believe the NFL fixes games for said teams. It would be waaayyy too difficult to maintain silence on, as by definition it would need to involve tons and tons of people.... I posted the ratings already. Actually, the NO Indy (2 smaller market teams) had as high or higher share than any Dallas SB. You also left out the part about Dallas not having been in the SB for 18 years. Regardless, the numbers all confirm that the SB is always the top rating show on TV all year, no matter who is playing. That's al lthe networks and the the league care about. Yes, you are standing by your statement that "the league makes more money when certain (big market) teams are popular", except that those teams (as you also state) are Pittsburgh and GB, both smaller market teams. The NFL "makes money" for the exact opposite reason that you state. The NFL is the only league where, at the beginning of the season, most fans (most!) can reasonabley believe that thier team can make the playoffs. SO you have smaller towns like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, GB, Indy who tune in locally and nationally. A "marketers dream" is having to market a product that sells itself to every market in every demographic regardless of any variable. Edited November 18, 2014 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Is the NFL rigged ? NO. I think , after years of bad football, it's a natural reaction ( defense mechanism ) for us to come up with reasons on why we suck so much while other team ( NE mainly ) are always on top and have their way with us year after year. Edited November 19, 2014 by Jets Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Is the NFL rigged ? NO. I think , after years of bad football, it's a natural reaction ( defense mechanism ) for us to come up with reasons on why we suck so much while other team ( NE mainly ) are always on top and have their way with us year after year. none of these thoughts or theories explain why we get horrible calls in key situations. We get class that effectively are turnovers for our team. We lose games by 1 score in these games. so its not that we "suck". the refs suck and call us more than other premium quaterbacked teams. Maybe you could explain why this fact exists if you dont agree with other peoples opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It's totally rigged. You don't think 6 feet of snow fell on the Ralph and nothing where the Jests practice is a coincidence do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Hater Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) none of these thoughts or theories explain why we get horrible calls in key situations. We get class that effectively are turnovers for our team. We lose games by 1 score in these games. so its not that we "suck". the refs suck and call us more than other premium quaterbacked teams. Maybe you could explain why this fact exists if you dont agree with other peoples opinions. I do get that the refs give us bad calls , the point is, it happens to ALL teams, not just the Bills. You could ask fans of the other 31 teams and they could point out game after game where they think they were shafted. To believe we are targeted is ludacris. We need to improve our team and stop blaming the refs or the league. Just my humble opinion. Edited November 20, 2014 by Jets Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I do get that the refs give us bad calls , the point is, it happens to ALL teams, not just the Bills. You could ask fans of the other 31 teams and they could point out game after game where they think they were shafted. To believe we are targeted is ludacris. We need to improve our team and stop blaming the refs or the league. Just my humble opinion. All true. But the Bills, for whatever reason, get !@#$ed more often than most teams; and even when your team improves, it's hard to win close games when the refs gift 1st downs to the opponent on key stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Its all rigged by cigarette smoking man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) All true. But the Bills, for whatever reason, get !@#$ed more often than most teams; and even when your team improves, it's hard to win close games when the refs gift 1st downs to the opponent on key stops. No, they do not. It just can look that way when you are a hard core fan of a team and they lose a lot. Edited November 20, 2014 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 No, they do not. It just can look that way when you are a hard core fan of a team and they lose a lot. Never underestimate the power of denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Does the NFL have enough money to do weather stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Lets try this for the THIRD time now since you can't answer a single question or post anything of any kind of relevance to the question at hand. How does the NFL profit from the Bills losing? What is it in for the NFL to conspire against them? Fact: Winning teams sell more tickets. Fact: Winning teams sell more merchandise. Fact: Winning teams pull more ratings. Fact: NFL profits from all of the above. So, since you are completely inept at answering this question, I will ask it a second time in this post. How does the NFL profit or benefit by manipulating or rigging Bills games? And don't say to help the Pats because you and all the other tin foil theorists complain about rigging against any team in the NFL we don't get a call against or lose to. In case you missed the direct question again...how does the NFL benefit from plotting against the Bills? I will bet money you don't answer this question with anything other than a blanket statement with no substance that just states "Its all about money". You don't have an answer to this question that makes any logical sense or you would have answered it already. I see Tu-Toned just disappeared rather than answer direct questions asked to him by me and others like Weo. Just as I predicted...lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 We had a dusting of snow in Buffalo yesterday. Is that enough to get us a sympathy Super Bowl win? You just had to eff w/the Snow God's, did you know! ;-P ;-P Your post is the one that tipped them over the edge... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 if it was all fixed wouldn't it be more interesting than it is? Any fool could write a better script than this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tu-Toned Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 While I don't believe this myself, the obvious answer to that question is that it's more profitable to have either bigger market teams (Giants, Pats*, 9ers, Bears) or teams with national fanbases (Steelers, Packers, Cowboys) win than perennial small market loser franchises like Buffalo, Jacksonville or Cleveland. More fans to do the buying, often in richer demographic cities, combined with higher Nielsen ratings. Fairly simple answer. As I said, I don't myself buy that--too big a conspiracy required to do that effectively. If there is crooked officiating going on, it is much more likely to be done on a smaller scale--to help gamblers in particular games or to help a particular team which is paying the refs for such privilege.... Thank God, finally someone with a little common sense. His question was really so obviously easy to answer, that it did not warrant a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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