TSOL Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Psh, coaching? Seriously? This game came down to the last two minutes and the players blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 http://youtu.be/_1oJuwkXr0E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I am amazed by all these fire the coach threads. It is easy to say fire the coach. Hell, the Bills are experts at it. The hard part is getting a good coach to come to Buffalo. No amount of money will bring an experienced, successful coach to Buffalo. IMO Marrone is as good as is going to get. He is young, but improving. Last years problems he said he would fix; Challenge Flags, Run Defense, Special Teams, Lack of depth at running back. IMO He is a good coach who will get better over time. That was with an owner who was more concerned with making a profit over winning, and used to micro manage his team / coaches. Plus the job insecurity of playing for a 90+ year old owner. Its why no top NFL head coach wanted to come to Buffalo. New ownership changes everything!! the best part is when Terry Pegula was asked if he bought the team to make a profit. His response was if I need to make money, I'll drill another well. I want to win above all else! No need to worry about coaching changes, as sometimes they are needed, and necessary. Marrone may or may not improve over the next 5 years. I for one am tired of his staff needing to learn as they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 So many people complaining about the 4 passing attempts. Had we run(and gotten stuffed) on first down it would have been dubbed predictable by the board.....and then what? 3 passes....or another "predictable" run on second.....leading to pass, pass? People really need to learn that a play that doesn't work doesn't necessarily mean it is a bad play......and conversely a play that does work doesn't necessarily mean it is a good play. It just baffles me that for so many fans, the complexities of playcalling boils down to should have run instead of passing....or should have passed instead of running. It's like people think the coaches are playing a simpler two option version of rock/paper/scissors. I agree it isn't that simple. The swing pass to Boobie had been working all day. There is an option. Chandler on crossing routes is pretty successful. 4 fade passes/jump balls to the endzone was bad decision making. Not hating the passing, hating the specific play calls. If those are the plays we are looking for, why no Mike Williams. That is literally what he is here for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Pettine. Bradley. Philbin. Rex Ryan. Tony Sparano. Andy Reid. Whisenhunt. Jeff Fisher. Lol. He just lost to Andy Reid about 5 minutes ago for the second year in a row at home. Jeff Fisher? Really? Pettine? We'll find out in a few weeks I guess. Tony Sparano maybe. Maybe. Even talent would probably favor Sparano. I think Bradley is a coach that is growing up with a young team. He may end up flopping or advancing. Half a point there because it is hard to say what he might do with talent. We know what Marrone has done.....ZERO. I'd bet the Bills would take a Whisenhunt/Marrone do over in a second. And I wish I could agree with Philbin but he has made Talleywhacker look decent. Meanwhile this doofus has made CJ, Fred, at times Watkins, Woods and Chandler look completely useless while deciding to play Brad Lamb instead of Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Good thing Glass Goodwin was active instead of a red zone threat like Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Why should I waste time arguing with you when you had Marrone already pegged as a loser coach? And we don't have a QB to reach 12 wins in a year consistently. we could get a hot streak with Orton, but he's not an elite QB, I like him but he's not elite. Correctly pegged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Who do you trust more? Your defense which has been playing lights out, or the offense which had been miserable in the redzone to date? This is why the decision was so terrible. Had you kicked a FG there, you'd be down one and giving the Chiefs the ball on the twenty, with two minutes and change and three timeouts remaining. Your defense is winning the game already, trust them and take the points. It's really a no-brainer decision that Marrone bobbled. But we did give them the ball back with two minutes left, needing to stop them from getting a first down, and we couldn't. It would have made no difference if we were only down by 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I agree. We were, and are on the same page. I was just pointing that out to the fans just blaming the fumbles or Orton. Kick the FG, and its a one point game. Then Carpenter just needed the Bills to get to the KC 40, and its a probable Bills win. I'm just a bit punchy after a stinger like this one today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Correctly pegged. In your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Good thing Glass Goodwin was active instead of a red zone threat like Mike Williams. Don't forget Brad Lamb. I know he caught a 25 yard TD pass but it was a blown coverage or something. Did you see him trying to fight in the end zone at the end? It looked like Raggedy Andy trying to outmuscle Mr. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 But we did give them the ball back with two minutes left, needing to stop them from getting a first down, and we couldn't. It would have made no difference if we were only down by 1. It makes a huge difference in how KC calls that series, and how the defense plays. It really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 It makes a huge difference in how KC calls that series, and how the defense plays. It really does. How would it have changed the way KC calls the last series? Either way, they just need to get one first down to milk the clock. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 In your opinion. Name one team in the NFL that missed the playoffs last year that in your opinion would have made it if Marrone were their coach. Oh, heck. Why not name one; just one, in the last 10 years where he and his ridiculous staff of children and castoffs from Detroit would have done it. And by Detroit I mean Crossman, not Schwantz. To his credit Marrone has used good sense in picking his DC's. It is on O where he wants his hand in the mix that everything goes completely south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Lol. He just lost to Andy Reid about 5 minutes ago for the second year in a row at home. Jeff Fisher? Really? Pettine? We'll find out in a few weeks I guess. Tony Sparano maybe. Maybe. Even talent would probably favor Sparano. I think Bradley is a coach that is growing up with a young team. He may end up flopping or advancing. Half a point there because it is hard to say what he might do with talent. We know what Marrone has done.....ZERO. I'd bet the Bills would take a Whisenhunt/Marrone do over in a second. And I wish I could agree with Philbin but he has made Talleywhacker look decent. Meanwhile this doofus has made CJ, Fred, at times Watkins, Woods and Chandler look completely useless while deciding to play Brad Lamb instead of Mike Williams. So the great Andy Reid outcoached us today? Really? Who has the better defense KC or the Bills? Who's offense looked better against those defenses? Marrone has won almost twice as many games as Bradley, who sucks. Marrone has destroyed the Phins and made Philbin look like a child. Fisher sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Psh, coaching? Seriously? This game came down to the last two minutes and the players blew it. no game ever comes solely down to the last 2 minutes, and the decisions made prior matter.there is no doubt that players and mistakes made by them cost this team the game. I still don't think that those players were entirely put in the best position to succeed, especially in the red zone, and especially against a team with a great pass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm just a bit punchy after a stinger like this one today. Its all good. and aren't we all a bit stressed after losing such a meaningful game. That was our playoff game, and our team still found a way to lose despite the defense playing so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 That I can pin on Marrone, I would have sit Freddie this one so he can heal up. But I don't want Marrone fired for it. Don't forget Stevie. Or Hilliard. Anyone who questions the great Marrone gets run. And the team loses. Brad Lamb seems polite though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Name one team in the NFL that missed the playoffs last year that in your opinion would have made it if Marrone were their coach. Oh, heck. Why not name one; just one, in the last 10 years where he and his ridiculous staff of children and castoffs from Detroit would have done it. And by Detroit I mean Crossman, not Schwantz. To his credit Marrone has used good sense in picking his DC's. It is on O where he wants his hand in the mix that everything goes completely south. How the !@#$ you come up with these unrealistic scenarios? For you he is a loser, I stopped seeing things black and white when I was 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 How would it have changed the way KC calls the last series? Either way, they just need to get one first down to milk the clock. Period. Not true, KC could afford to be more conservative (and were) precisely because the Bills needed a TD to win. Had they only needed a FG, every scenario of the OC/DC play card changes because giving the Bills the ball back with 27 seconds left (which they did) gives them too many chances to get into FG range. It makes a big difference in mentality and strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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